[HPforGrownups] JKR's liberal Worldview (DD gay etc..)

[k12listmomma]

No: HPFGUIDX 178366

All the snips here are from Bart who said:
<<You realize, of course, that the term "homophobia" is based on the 
left-wing concept that anybody who does not agree with them politically is 
mentally ill.>>

~ DA Jones
No, it's an accurate description. Right-wingers are 'fearful' of Gays and 
believe that somehow gay people will bring down civilization if to numerous 
or powerful. An assumption that is hard to separate from the same illogic 
that was used against blacks in the 50-60's. America will never turn gay 
anymore then it will black. Demographics do matter however as Israels fear 
of being out populated by the Isreali Arabs in their midst is logical.

A phobia is an irrational fear. If having a phobia made you nuts Ron would 
have been locked up for his agoraphobia (fear of spiders (I'm not sure of 
spelling)). Only the most deliberating fears (such as fear of water) make 
you sick enough to be mentally ill. The left implies the typical illogic of 
the right with the term homophobia, not mental illness.

Like most liberals I question the mental capacities of those on the far 
right. Not their mental stability. I hope one day that instead of awaiting 
miracles that they find the reason of science.

Shelley now:
DA Jones, where is the reason of science in your argument?
"Right-wingers are 'fearful' of Gays"     Really? Your proof or science for 
that one?
"and believe that somehow gay people will bring down civilization if to 
numerous or powerful"
Where are you getting these quotes from? It seems to me that you are doing 
nothing more than stereotyping people with a "straw man" argument just so 
that you can knock it down. There is no proof that real world "right 
wingers" hold the belief that you claim they have, just so you can abuse 
them in public. Seems to me the illogic is your alone for sake of argument- 
the people I meet in real life don't share such views.

I agree with what Bart is saying- homophobia is a term used to say that 
anyone that doesn't hold to a certain ideology is "irrationally fearful" of 
a certain group of people, and it's a lie that's being spread just to spread 
an agenda. It's not accurate- I don't agree with homosexually, but that 
doesn't make me fearful, and neither does it make me a nutjob that fears 
that "they" will gain power. I just don't care to read about their 
lifestyle;I don't care to engage myself in things that are gay in nature. 
For me, it's the same as smut novels- novels meant to focus on a romantic 
relationship between a straight couple, where the highlight of the book is 
when they finally couple for sexual relations. What's your term for me for 
not liking those novels- "intercoursephobic"? "Romanticfobic"?

To me, you are doing the very same thing that Rowling was trying to argue 
against in her books- the stereotyping and shunning people of different 
beliefs just for the sake of one feeling superior to the other. It's easy to 
put up walls between people, but harder to tear them down.

Shelley