Harry's remark about Kreacher WAS: Re: JKR messed up........ no.

Zara zgirnius at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 29 00:39:10 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 178580

> va32h:
> "thinking now only of the four-poster bed lying waiting for him in
> Gryffindor Tower, and wondering whether Kreacher might bring him a
> sandwich there." (pg 749).
> 
> What part of that phrase suggests that Harry's original plan was to
> nip down to the kitchen and fix his own sandwich? Harry is thinking
> *only* of going to bed according to the text.  Then it occurs to him
> that Kreacher could bring him a sandwich. 

zgirnius:
Thank you for posting the canon. After reading this thread, I was 
beginning to think I misremembered the ending, and Harry had actually 
ordered a sandwich from Kreacher!

Now that I see the canon - where does it say Harry planned to ask for 
a sandwich at all? The only action Harry expresses any thought of 
taking is going upstairs to bed. He expresses also a vague hope that 
Kreacher might bring him a sandwich, but no intention of actually 
making it so.

Is this an unreasonable hope for Harry to harbor? I would say not. 
The House Elves, having participated in the battle under Kreacher's 
leadership, are definitely back to work in the Hogwarts kitchens. We 
can deduce this because when Harry leaves to seek out Albus' 
portrait, others are sitting at the tables in the Great Hall, eating. 
Food in one of the five exceptions to Gamp's Law, etc., so someone 
made than food the old-fashioned way and caused it to arrive. Absent 
any statement in the text as to who, I would think the natural 
conclusion is, the people who always make the food and cause it to 
arrive - the House Elves.

So for the sandwich to come, all it would take is for Kreacher to 
notice his master is absent from the meal, and take steps to get the 
food to him. This seems entirely in character for Kreacher. And if he 
doesn't notice - Harry can always nip down to the kitchen for a snack 
after he wakes.

> va32h
> 
> How does one transport a thread from one list to another?  Because
> yes, I would argue with some of the things you suggested regarding 
the
> Civil War.

zgirnius:
Simply copy any points from the post you wish to address, format the 
post as usual, and then post it at the OTC list:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/

You could also use the 'send email' feature to let the person to whom 
you are responding know you are doing this, in case they do not 
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