Slyths, Gryffs, & Chivalry/Map/Doge/Alastor/Countercurses/NHN/Marietta/Hagrid

[sistermagpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 176899

> Magpie wrote in
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/176845>:
> 
> << No responsibilty for Hagrid at all (no surprise--this is the guy
> who sternly gives kids detention for saving his own a**). >>
> 
> The only time I remember that kids got detention for saving Hagrid's
> bacon, it was not Hagrid who gave them detention. McGonagall gave 
them
> detention for being dashing all over the castle after curfew. She
> didn't believe that Harry was taking a dragon to the Astronomy 
tower;
> instead she thought it was a tale that Harry had put around to lure
> Malfoy out of bed to get caught and punished but that caught Neville
> as well. I don't know why she thought Harry and Hermione were out
> after curfew in that case.
> 
> It is entirely possible that Hagrid felt guilty about Harry and
> Hermione and Neville getting detention for his sake, and tried to 
make
> it better by arranging for them to have a *pleasant* (in his 
opinion)
> detention. Altho' he couldn't have believed it would be pleasant for
> Neville to be teamed with Draco.

Magpie:
That's the detention I'm talking about. JKR didn't write Hagrid as 
guilty at all. It's like everyone involved has forgotten how Harry 
and Hermione got there and suddenly has Hagrid giving them stern 
orders about how they broke the rules so now they need to do 
detention. Whether or not McG would have given them detention anyway, 
Hagrid plays the part of objective giver of detention--and it's not 
pleasant, either. That is what I meant by Hagrid "giving them" 
detention--not that he was the one who assigned it, but that there's 
this whole ridiculous passage where he's in charge of it without any 
reference by anybody anywhere about how ridiculous that is. Hagrid 
not only doesn't run in to confess, he doesn't seem to remember 
there's anything to confess--and neither do the kids.

-m