[HPforGrownups] Re:Slyths, Gryffs, & Chivalry/Map/Doge/Alastor/Countercurses/NHN/Marietta/Hagrid

[Bart Lidofsky]

No: HPFGUIDX 176904

Magpie:
> That's the detention I'm talking about. JKR didn't write Hagrid as 
> guilty at all. It's like everyone involved has forgotten how Harry 
> and Hermione got there and suddenly has Hagrid giving them stern 
> orders about how they broke the rules so now they need to do 
> detention. Whether or not McG would have given them detention anyway, 
> Hagrid plays the part of objective giver of detention--and it's not 
> pleasant, either. That is what I meant by Hagrid "giving them" 
> detention--not that he was the one who assigned it, but that there's 
> this whole ridiculous passage where he's in charge of it without any 
> reference by anybody anywhere about how ridiculous that is. 

Bart:
	I will admit that I did some reading between the lines here, so you can 
take it as you will. Isn't it a strange coincidence that Hagrid was the 
cause of the misbehavior, and that the detention was with Hagrid? 
Looking at Hagrid's personality, I don't think it was (and the later 
books confirmed my earlier suspicions).

	Now, to set a context, let's say that the detention Hagrid came up with 
was to go to Hogsmeade with him and pick up a bunch of candy from 
Honeydukes. Now, consider how Hagrid looks at the detention he gave the 
kids. From his point of view, this isn't a punishment; it's a fun outing 
(and Hagrid is not the only one who is guilty of this; in COS, 
Gildylocks gives Harry a dentention which, from Gildylocks' point of 
view, is more of an honor than a punishment). I really and truly think 
that if Draco had not been there, Hagrid would have said something like, 
"Sorry for getting you kids into trouble, so, to make it up, instead of 
punishment, we're going to have some fun!"

	Bart