Dark Book, was Re: Dark Magic (+ a little Marietta)/Karma and the Twins

[hickengruendler]

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> > Pippin:
> > The DE's are there because the Carrows told Voldemort that Harry
> > was at Hogwarts, the Carrows are at Hogwarts, symbolically,
> > (though not literally) because the vanishing cabinet let them in,
> > and it let them in because of what the twins did. That's plenty
> > ironic and connected enough for me.
> > 
 
Hickengruendler:

Wouldn't Voldemort and the Death Eaters have been there anyway, after 
Voldemort learned about what happened at Gringott's. He was checking 
the cave by the sea and the ruins of the Gaunt's house, and he would 
have come to Hogwarts next anyway. McGonagall and the others still 
wouldn't have let him in, and he would have called the Death Eaters. 
I really don't see much difference, that the presence of the Carrows 
made in this case. Except that you could argue, that if it weren't 
for the Carrows and Snape in Hogwarts, Neville might never have 
called the Twins and the other Order and DA members in first place, 
so they wouldn't have been there to fight and wouldn't have died, but 
I find this too thin an argument to speak about Karma regarding 
Fred's death. Just like I don't see Snape's death as Karma either. I 
do however, think, that Rowling treated them the same in using some 
dark irony for their Death scenes, just like she did with Dobby and 
Sirius, and, to use an example from the other side, Wormtail. But I 
don't see Fred's death connected to the Vanishing cabinet incident, 
not even symbolically. If you would talk about Bill's disfigurement 
on the other hand, I might agree with you. ;-)

Hickengruendler