Dark Book, was Re: Dark Magic (+ a little Marietta)/Karma and the Twins

Carol justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 10 19:39:18 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 176942

Carol earlier:
> > Required to practice the Unforgiveables on each other? Can you 
support that with canon, please? 
> 
> Mus thinks zhe can:
> 
> "Amycus, the bloke, he teaches what used to be Defence Against the
Dark Arts, except now it's just the Dark Arts.  We're supposed to
practice the Cruciatus Curse on people who've earned detentions - " 
[Neville, DH, UK pb: 462]
> 
> This reads to me as if the DA classes have a practical element,
which involves the students using Crucio.  So I *think* this is canon
for at least one UC being part of the curriculum, with a practical
element, though I admit it says nothing about Imperio or AK.
> 
> Mus
>
Carol responds:
However, "supposed to practice" and actually practice are two
different things, and Neville, a seventh-year, doesn't define "we." I
still think it's only the sixth and seventh-years who would be taught
these spells and only two who actually use one of the three spells. As
for "people who've earned detentions," I can't see the entire student
body showing up to Crucio one person. It makes no sense.

Also, of course, there's more to the Dark Arts than the
Unforgiveables, and even Amycus Carrow would realize that you have to
start small with the younger students. (I also think he'd be even
stupider than he appears if he had the students practice AK--students
spilling wizarding blood in the hallways wouldn't make the Dark Lord
happy, and besides, the students might turn around and cast that spell
on him.)

And once again, before I drop the subject, there's no evidence that
anyone besides Crabbe and Goyle, two seventh-year Slytherins, takes
advantage of this opportunity to torture fellow students. Neville does
say, "Some people are into it, though," but the only two he names are
C and G. The implication is that "some people" equals C and G. Not
even Draco or Pansy Parkinson (or Theo Nott, that other son of a DE)
is "into it" or Neville would have mentioned them. We don't hear about
the Slytherins or anyone else rising up en masse to torture the
students in detention. The Carrows do that just fine by themselves.

On a side note, *Alecto* Carrow doesn't teach Unforgiveables or any
spells at all, only so-called Muggle Studies, institutionalized
prejudice. And we hear nothing about Imperius being practiced.

Carol, who doubts that Crabbe ever practiced Fiendfyre before learning
the hard way that it can't be put out and thinks he merely heard about
the spell in class





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