Dark Book, was Re: Dark Magic (+ a little Marietta)/Karma and the Twins

[muscatel1988]

No: HPFGUIDX 176944

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> Carol responds:
> However, "supposed to practice" and actually practice are two
> different things, and Neville, a seventh-year, doesn't define "we." 
> I still think it's only the sixth and seventh-years who would be 
> taught these spells and only two who actually use one of the three 
> spells. As for "people who've earned detentions," I can't see the 
> entire student body showing up to Crucio one person. It makes no 
> sense.

That's true, but Neville does say that DADA is now DA, and it's canon 
that DA is part of the curriculum from First Year.  I could see ickle 
firsties starting out on small stuff - we've seen the UCs used on a 
spider in GoF, though this is of course not canon.  
 
> besides, the students might turn around and cast that spell
> on him.)

This is true, of course, even if only Crucio and Imperio are being 
taught only to NEWT-level students.  It occurred to me while typing 
my previous post that ensuring that a resentful student body (which 
is, by assumption, at least the Gryffindors, Hufflepuffs and 
Ravenclaws) knows powerful offensive magic is an extraordinarily dumb 
thing to do.

> And once again, before I drop the subject, there's no evidence that
> anyone besides Crabbe and Goyle, two seventh-year Slytherins, takes
> advantage of this opportunity to torture fellow students. Neville 
> does say, "Some people are into it, though," but the only two he 
> names are C and G. The implication is that "some people" equals C 
> and G. Not even Draco or Pansy Parkinson (or Theo Nott, that other 
> son of a DE) is "into it" or Neville would have mentioned them. We 
> don't hear about the Slytherins or anyone else rising up en masse 
> to torture the students in detention. The Carrows do that just fine 
> by themselves.

Perhaps it's a fatuous analogy, but what comes to mind for me is 
sports when I was in school.  We all had to do it, and some of us 
were "into it", but a larger number weren't enthusiastic.  Being made 
to do something isn't the same thing as the same thing as enjoying 
it.  We know that refusing to practise it earned Neville a good 
seeing to.

Mus