Draco...Interesting?
Katie
anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 12 19:08:12 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 176993
Pippin:
> It's clear that something had a life-changing
> > effect on him. I didn't really get that it was the dementors,
> > but for the sake of the narrative all Harry needs to know is that
> > people *can* change. Putting in how it happened would shift
> > the emphasis from judging people by their choices to judging
> > them by what's happened to them, which is not what JKR wants,
> > IMO. It's Harry who's the essentiallist, not her, IMO.
>
> Magpie:
> I think Harry and JKR are together on this. I think Dudley and
Draco > turned into exactly the person they always were, and their
life-experiences didn't make them who they were but showed who
> they were. Dudley liked Harry when Harry saved his life. I don't
> think he changed much beyond that. Even when Harry's pleased by
> Dudley's change of attitude about him he's still Dudley--"He
didn't thank me" etc. The last thing I would take away from this
series is the lesson that people can change. There are some changes
for plot's sake, sometimes people take a while to show who they
really are, but I think JKR was quite serious when she referred to
her characters as chess pieces. I think they have their signature
move and that's who they are.
***Katie:
I don't think either Harry or JKR is an "essentialist". Their
opinions on people change, and people really do change. Now, I agree
with Magpie that Draco's character did not change as much as was
expected based on HBP. However, I disagree entirely that "Dudley
liked Harry when he saved his life."
Dudley didn't just like Harry in that moment that Harry saved him,
and then go back to being the way he always was, and he didn't only
like Harry because he saved him. The dementor attack brought on a
change of attitude and POV from Dudley. Dudley realized - probably
in a very shocking and difficult moment - that Harry is a different
person than Dudley had always supposed him to be. Dudley had a
epiphany. He realized that Harry was not weak, but strong. Not
wimpy, but brave. Not selfish, but selfless. Not worthless, but
inherently full of worth. It was Dudley's wake-up call. It was a
profoundly changed Dudley who put that cup of tea outside of Harry's
door, who shook his hand before the Dursley's left. Dudley realized
he could be wrong, Dudley realized his parents could be wrong, and
he realized that the world is bigger than himself and Little
Whinging. I liked, very much, the Dudley who I saw in the beginning
of DH, and I would never have said that about him in the first 4
books.
And as for people changing - I can't think of books where characters
grow and change MORE than they do in HP.
Harry - Wimpy, frightened, abused child who is completely unsure of
himself turns into brave, heroic, powerful wizard who battles dark
forces.
Harry again - Close-minded, prejudiced teenager turns into a man who
understands that everyone is an individual and that he shouldn't
judge a book by it's cover.
Hermione - Haughty, obnoxious know-it-all turns into helpful, kind,
thoughtful and motherly witch who selflessly takes care of her
friends. (I know many will disagree with this...just IMO)
Just a few examples. My point is, whatever your opinion of their
ultimate incarnations, people do very much change in HP. Whether you
like them or not is a different issue, but they do change.
Katie
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