What is in the box - Prank and SHIPS ( surprising and otherwise) WAS Surp
dumbledore11214
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Sun Sep 16 21:30:42 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 177100
> Pippin:
> But it was just a great big scarlet fishy after all. :) We should
have
> known when it got left out of the CTTMNBN. Very intense, but
> no life-changing consequences for anyone, except that it
> guaranteed that there'd be fertile ground for misunderstandings
> in the future and coldness between Snape and the ex-Marauders
> even when they all knew they were on the same side. <SNIPPED
hugely>
> Sirius was probably not thinking past the glorious moment
> when Snape would wet himself. James probably *was* thinking
> more about keeping his friends out of trouble than about
> saving Snape.
>
> But that's all there was to it, IMO. No heroes, no
> villains, just a bunch of kids with more time on their
> hands than was good for them. ::sigh::
>
> Sometimes we grownups forget how mental teenagers
> can be.
Alla:
Oh yeah, I agree about it being a big scarlet fishy in JKR mind. I
find **this** assessment of the prank to be actually quite agreeable
and probably exactly what JKR intended ( except of course I think
that James besides thinking of keeping his friends out of trouble,
**was** also thinking of saving Snape).
But I am still dying to know more about it for all the reasons I
stated above AND because I just was not impressed about it being a
red herring, you know?
In a sense that my mind got it of course, but on emotional level, I
did not.
I do not know how explain it better, except just to say again -
there were many things that other people wanted to know - more about
James and Lily, other characters.
I was **satisfied** with pretty much everything back story wise, but
Prank just left me wanting more.
> Potioncat, who understands that fandom has many interests and
accepts
> the many different possible combinations of characters, but cannot
> imagine Sirius and Severus as so much as having a cup of tea in
the
> same room. And is absolutely gobsmacked that it was Alla who
> suggested it!
> <SNIPPING of the whole post, since the main question is expressed
quite nicely here :)>
Alla:
Awwww, sorry to surprise you so dearest. :) I was pretty sure I
mentioned several times in the past that Sirius/Snape was my all
time favorite SHIP and Sirius/Remus was the second one.
Moreover those SHIPS are the only ones I cared about. I mean, I love
Trio and their romances, but it was like whatever - as long as they
are happy at the end of the books, I am happy. And it actually only
related to Harry and whoever he will end up with. I mean, I highly
suspected Ginny, but I won't lie - I was not 100% sure of it.
Especially when Luna was introduced. Ron and Hermione to me were a
done deal since book 1 - period, end of story.
So, anyways back to Sirius and his potential lovers, snort.
To answer question number 1 ( or so I number it) - why would I want
Snape in any SHIP, knowing how I feel about him.
Well, I do **not** want Snape in any other SHIP first and foremost
and actually right now I indeed would not want Snape in any SHIP,
snort.
I do not know if you read my post to JudySerenity ( I think) where
(OOOPS, if you did not read it, you are probably due to another
surprise) I said that Snape was my favorite character after book 1.
But you know, I really was not kidding. I could not stand Snape's
treatment of kids, but he had the most potential to be the character
I usually love.
To make a long story short my relationship with Snape's character
evolved from love/hate to hate, but at some point in the series I
really did have enough sympathy for him to want to see him in a
happy relationship.
Why would I want Snape/ Sirius? Simply - they had lots of sparks to
me, and it is that "thin line from love to hate" attraction, to me
anyways.
No, I did not expect to get Sirius/Snape in canon obviously. But
after handshake in GoF I really did expect them to have the
relationship of comrades, two adults who were able to put aside the
grudges of the past and work together. Ooops.
Yes, I know that they were on the same side, I just expected them to
be able to you know, as you said - have cup of tea in the same room,
basically.
After OOP obviously I simply hated Snape and hated him more in HBP,
but I would still read fanfic with this ship, for the sake of old
times.
After DH, well probably not. It is funny, but if the character is
taken in canon, it is much harder for me to buy AU SHIP.
Funnily, I can still buy Sirius/ Remus and that brings us to the
next question.
Catlady:
> > And what I would be looking for all through the manuscript is
> anything
> > that can be taken as evidence for the Sirius/Remus ship.
> <SNIP>
>
> Alla:
>
> Sigh. I wish ... I knew I could not get Sirius/ Snape in canon,
LOL,
> so I grew to love Sirius/Remus too. Sigh.
>
Nora:
Catlady and Alla, why? Do you see any hint of this? I am interested
in
knowing why there is so much fanfic about this matter. It has never
come to my mind reading the books.
Alla:
Well, obviously we are not talking here about JKR intending it in
canon either as we learned, but yeah, I believe that there were
signs that could be interpreted like that.
Since I started liking Snape/Sirius more, I had to take another look
at Sirius/ Remus, so the most convincing to me were their dynamics
in OOP. How Remus was always there, they gave presents together, etc.
And of course "embraced like brothers" can be interpreted not only
that way.
And it is funny, while I cannot read Snape/Sirius any more, I will
still happily read Sirius/ Remus, because JKR did not convince me
much about Remus loving Tonks and she especially did not convince me
that Sirius was not gay with those posters in his room.
MAHAHAHAHAHAH.
And what Catlady wrote about Sirius/Remus
JMO,
Alla
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