What is in the box - Prank and SHIPS ( surprising and otherwise) WAS Surp

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 16 21:30:42 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 177100

> Pippin:
> But it was just a great big scarlet fishy after all. :) We should 
have
> known when it got left out of the CTTMNBN. Very intense, but
> no life-changing consequences for anyone, except that it
> guaranteed that there'd  be  fertile ground for misunderstandings
> in the future and coldness between Snape and the ex-Marauders
> even when they all knew they were on the same side.  <SNIPPED 
hugely>

> Sirius was probably not thinking past the glorious moment
> when Snape would wet himself. James probably *was* thinking
> more about keeping his friends out of trouble than about
> saving Snape. 
> 
> But that's all there was to it, IMO. No heroes, no
> villains, just a bunch of  kids with more time on their
> hands than was good for them. ::sigh:: 
> 
> Sometimes we grownups forget how mental teenagers
> can be.


Alla:

Oh yeah, I agree about it being a big scarlet fishy in JKR mind. I 
find **this** assessment of the prank to be actually quite agreeable 
and probably exactly what JKR intended ( except of course I think 
that James besides thinking of keeping his friends out of trouble, 
**was** also thinking of saving Snape).

But I am still dying to know more about it for all the reasons I 
stated above AND because I just was not impressed about it being a 
red herring, you know?

In a sense that my mind got it of course, but on emotional level, I 
did not.

I do not know how explain it better, except just to say again - 
there were many things that other people wanted to know - more about 
James and Lily, other characters.

I was **satisfied** with pretty much everything back story wise, but 
Prank just left me wanting more.

> Potioncat, who understands that fandom has many interests and 
accepts 
> the many different possible combinations of characters, but cannot 
> imagine Sirius and Severus as so much as having a cup of tea in 
the 
> same room. And is absolutely gobsmacked that it was Alla who 
> suggested it!
>  <SNIPPING of the whole post, since the main question is expressed 
quite nicely here :)>

Alla:

Awwww, sorry to surprise you so dearest.  :) I was pretty sure I 
mentioned several times in the past that Sirius/Snape was my all 
time favorite SHIP and Sirius/Remus was the second one.

Moreover those SHIPS are the only ones I cared about. I mean, I love 
Trio and their romances, but it was like whatever - as long as they 
are happy at the end of the books, I am happy. And it actually only 
related to Harry and whoever he will end up with. I mean, I highly 
suspected Ginny, but I won't lie - I was not 100% sure of it.

Especially when Luna was introduced. Ron and Hermione to me were a 
done deal since book 1 - period, end of story.

So, anyways back to Sirius and his potential lovers, snort.

To answer question number 1 ( or so I number it) - why would I want 
Snape in any SHIP, knowing how I feel about him.

Well, I do **not** want Snape in any other SHIP first and foremost 
and actually right now I indeed would not want Snape in any SHIP, 
snort.

I do not know if you read my post to JudySerenity ( I think) where 
(OOOPS, if you did not read it, you are probably due to another 
surprise) I said that Snape was my favorite character after book 1.

But you know, I really was not kidding. I could not stand Snape's 
treatment of kids, but he had the most potential to be the character 
I usually love.

To make a long story short my relationship with Snape's character 
evolved from love/hate to hate, but at some point in the series I 
really did have enough sympathy for him to want to see him in a 
happy relationship.

Why would I want Snape/ Sirius? Simply - they had lots of sparks to 
me, and it is that "thin line from love to hate" attraction, to me 
anyways.

No, I did not expect to get Sirius/Snape in canon obviously. But 
after handshake in GoF I really did expect them to have the 
relationship of comrades, two adults who were able to put aside the 
grudges of the past and work together. Ooops.

Yes, I know that they were on the same side, I just expected them to 
be able to you know, as you said - have cup of tea in the same room, 
basically.

After OOP obviously I simply hated Snape and hated him more in HBP, 
but I would still read fanfic with this ship, for the sake of old 
times.

After DH, well probably not. It is funny, but if the character is 
taken in canon, it is much harder for me to buy AU SHIP.

Funnily, I can still buy Sirius/ Remus and that brings us to the 
next question.


Catlady:
> > And what I would be looking for all through the manuscript is
> anything
> > that can be taken as evidence for the Sirius/Remus ship.
> <SNIP>
>
> Alla:
>
> Sigh. I wish ... I knew I could not get Sirius/ Snape in canon, 
LOL,
> so I grew to love Sirius/Remus too. Sigh.
>

Nora:

Catlady and Alla, why? Do you see any hint of this? I am interested 
in
knowing why there is so much fanfic about this matter. It has never
come to my mind reading the books.


Alla:

Well, obviously we are not talking here about JKR intending it in 
canon either as we learned, but yeah, I believe that there were 
signs that could be interpreted like that.

Since I started liking Snape/Sirius more, I had to take another look 
at Sirius/ Remus, so the most convincing to me were their dynamics 
in OOP. How Remus was always there, they gave presents together, etc.

And of course "embraced like brothers" can be interpreted not only 
that way.

And it is funny, while I cannot read Snape/Sirius any more, I will 
still happily read Sirius/ Remus, because JKR did not convince me 
much about Remus loving Tonks and she especially did not convince me 
that Sirius was not gay with those posters in his room. 
MAHAHAHAHAHAH.

And what Catlady wrote about Sirius/Remus  

JMO,

Alla







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