Do we really get our closer?

zanooda2 zanooda2 at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 17 23:07:08 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 177140

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> To return to Wormtail, when we next see him in GoF, he seems to be
> wandless unless he's using Voldemort's wand, which he uses to kill
> Cedric Diggory and to obtain the bone for the restorative potion.
> Apparently, he doesn't have his own wand until the kidnapped
> Ollivander is forced to make him a new one, as we learn in "The
> Wandmaker" in DH.


Or Wormtail could use Bertha Jorkins' wand (until Ollivander made him 
a new one). I suppose he took it when he overpowered her in Albania. 
Maybe Wormtail only used LV's wand in the graveyard because LV wanted 
his own wand to take part in the regeneration process -  he used to 
like symbolics :-).


> Apparently self-transformation, whether innate or
> learned, is an exception (as are accidental magic performed by
> children and flying, with or without a broom--Voldie stays airborne
> after Lucius Malfoy's wand blows up in his hand.


I agree, except for the broomless flying. We can't really know, 
because in "Seven Potters" Voldie probably had his own wand with him 
as well, he just didn't want to use it against Harry (that's why he 
asked for Selwyn's wand after Lucius's was broken). 


> I won't get into the question of Snape's bat transformation in DH, 
> but McGonagall is no Snape expert and could be wrong that he needed 
> a wand to do whatever he did).


I know most people believe that Snape transformed into a bat, but I'm 
still convinced that he just learned how to fly, maybe, as McGonagall 
suggested, from LV. If he just turned into an animal, I don't see any 
reason for McGonagall to say that he "learned a few tricks from his 
master". You don't need LV to learn how to transform yourself into an 
animal - Viktor Krum knew how to do it in GoF, and there is nothing 
dark about it. 

Flying is another matter - no one except LV (and Snape :-) can do it. 
Besides, bats are small animals, and Harry sees "a huge bat-like 
shape". OK, maybe Snape turned into a gigantic magical bat, but 
still, flying seems more logical to me.

 
> Carol, who thinks that the Shrieking Shack chapters of PoA provide 
> all the evidence we need that no wand is required for an Animagus to
> transform into an animal and back again

Hear, hear :-)


zanooda






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