Dark Book - Blood and Cruelty/ Draco

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No: HPFGUIDX 177284

> Betsy Hp:
> You're absolutely correct of course.  And while I do quite like 
Draco 
> and quite dislike Harry (especially by series end) I recognize that 
> I'm completely subverting the text in having that opinion.
> 
> So why have I bothered with this argument...  I think because I see 
> it as a bit disingenuous to say Harry's less popular than Draco and 
> also an everyman.  Though it's more JKR who's being disingenuous 
than 
> anyone making that particular argument. <SNIP>

Alla:

Well, thank you, LOL that you agreed to not consider my argument to 
be disingenuous. Since I most certainly among those making it.

I usually think of everybody's argument as not disingenious by 
default.


Betsy Hp:
 Because while I really do 
> think the text does not support average, everday, barely a blip on 
> the radar of his fellow students, Harry, I do see that JKR is 
> attempting (as she does throughout the series) to have her cake and 
> eat it too.  
> <SNIP>


Alla:

I think she just makes the cake, personally and find her to be a very 
good baker, LOL.


Betsy Hp: 
> From the moment Harry entered the magical world he was a superstar 
> that far outshone the Malfoy family name.  But JKR has set Draco up 
> to fulfill a certain trope.  So the superstar is made a nerd by 
> virtue of his glasses, and the underdog is made the BMOC by virtue 
of 
> his blond hair and poncy accent.  <SNIP>

Alla:

You start from establishing something as a fact and proceed to build 
your argument on the premise that does not work for everybody, but 
since you say it as a fact, it looks like the other reading is 
somehow less supported by the text.

In this paragraph you also switch from Harry's position in Hogwarts 
in comparison to Draco to Harry's position in the WW as in comparison 
to Draco.

Chosen one is surely well known in WW, although Malfoy's name seems 
pretty well known to me to - Board of Governors and all that. Oh, and 
Harry not being in WW for eleven years also IMO helps equal the 
stakes.

So, if we are back to Hogwarts, I will just say what Amy said for the 
most part, I especially liked  that popularity does not equal that 
other word.

But specifically, NO so called superstar is not made a nerd by the 
virtue of his glasses IMO, he is made a nerd ( and being a well known 
person at the same time) by growing apart from this world, by knowing 
nothing about his heritage and has to fit in the whole new world and 
of course by dealing with something that school has no problem 
ostracising him for from time to time.

And so called "underdog" - because to me he is no underdog in any way 
shape or form is not made BMOC by virtue of his hair and accent.

He is made one by what he does and what he stands for in my view.

Betsy Hp:
Which means, I suppose, that per 
> JKR Draco is the BMOC and totally popular with everyone and would 
win 
> every single quidditch match and poor Harry just has to struggle to 
> get by.  Oh, but Harry always, always, wins and no one really likes 
> Draco at all. 


Alla:

Nobody likes Draco at all? Seems like he has a plenty of Slytherin 
friends to me. 

And the funny thing is, I really do believe JKR when she writes that, 
I really do believe her that in every new struggle with Draco Harry 
has to fight and often for his life to win.

With me she succeeded brilliantly. 

JMO,

Alla