Dumbledore's plan
Dana
ida3 at planet.nl
Wed Sep 26 06:28:41 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 177418
Carol responds:
<snip>
> Soul bits don't go to some equivalent of King's Cross when they are
> released from the Horcrux that holds them. According to Hermione,
> our resident expert on the subject, "a Horcrux is the complete
> opposite of a human being. . . . [W]hatever happens to your body,
> your soul will survive, untouched. But it's the other way around
> with a Horcrux. The fragment inside it depends on its container,
> its enchanted body. It can't exist without it" (104).
<snip>
Dana:
Your explanation is very well constructed but I do not agree with
your interpretation.
If you die then your soul goes to the afterlife in JKR's world, while
your body remains behind (well at least in most cases unless you're
killed by drapery) and thus every independent piece of LV's soul goes
to this in between stage just as every other soul. They can't exist
in the living world without their casings but that is not to say that
these soul pieces stop existing in themselves in essence because
otherwise LV's conscious soul would have stopped to exit when the
spell backfired in GH but it didn't because his other soul pieces
kept him from moving on.
They go to the abyss like any other soul but they are so maimed that
they are no longer able to go beyond this shadowy stage, they no
longer have any choice like "normal" souls do. So in a sense they
will remain between the world of the living and the death. LV's soul
piece that we saw can't stand up and take the train so to speak and
it can't return to the land of the living as a ghost either. So they
will just exist in this abyss for eternity.
What we saw WAS the piece of soul attached to Harry and in essence DD
was right as this soul piece was destroyed because it no longer has a
choice to do anything from that moment on. LV's conscious soul can no
longer depend on it for his survival and on its own it can't move on
to the next stage of death or return to the world of the living.
Only true remorse could have connected LV's conscious soul piece to
the lost pieces making it whole enough for him to move beyond that
shadowy stage and take the train to the beyond and thus have a chance
to live whole again in the afterlife. Because he was incapable of
doing so, every single soul piece he split off, will independently
live within this abyss forever with no chance to either move back
(ghost) or move forward (afterlife).
So in short, to me, the piece of soul we saw in Harry's vision *was*
the soul piece that had resided in Harry for all those years but it
could not longer perform its duty as horcrux and thus essentially it
was destroyed but not non-existent in the deeper meaning of death (or
destruction).
JMHO
Dana
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