Disappointment

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 177508

> > Alla:
<SNIP>
>> > As I said, I had nothing against it at the end, if it were to 
> come, 
> > although I was totally convinced that it will not come till House 
> > Slytherin will extinguish its evil ideology and I think half of 
it 
> is 
> > done and the signs that it may come is there too.
> 
> Magpie:
> And I think it didn't happen, and it isn't supposed to happen, and 
> it's no more done than it was at the beginning of PS/SS. 
<SNIP>

Alla:

Right, just to be clear. I am NOT saying that it did happen. What I 
am saying is that half of what I thought needed to be done did happen 
in my view - Slytherin house extinguishing their evil ideology, being 
diluted?

AND I am saying that I see the signs that the unity is coming in next 
generation. I understand that you disagree that it is coming as well, 
just wanted to be clear on what I am saying. In my view it definitely 
did NOT happen in the books, just the symbols in the epilogue tell me 
that it is coming and the contributions of individual Slyths tell me 
that as well.


 
> Magpie:
> No, I wouldn't call her a bad writer because of that, as I said. I 
> think "she's a bad writer" is far too blanket a statement to refer 
> to her doing one plot twist a person didn't like if you like 
> everything else.

Alla:

Agreed.

 
> Magpie:
> It doesn't shed a different light on any of the themes or things 
> that came before it and there's nothing after it. Knowing that 
> Merriman is going to remove the Drews' memories doesn't change 
> what's going on when I re-read it. 

Alla:

Oh I see.

 
> Alla:
> 
> > 
> > Just as epilogue in HP for me delivered perfectly what I 
expected -
>  
> > happy ending to Harry's journey and him getting what he wanted 
all 
> > his life, what seems like a biggest gift for him - family
> 
> Magpie:
> That's exactly what it gave me too. Nothing about House Unity or 
> social change in the WW. Harry has obtained his middle class 
> existance with a family--that was the goal and that's what he got, 
> which imo says something very clear about the meaning and 
priorities 
> of the story. TDiR ends with the suggestion that man will now be in 
> control of the world, and that the human characters will have the 
> responsibility of making their world a better place whether they 
> remember the specifics or not. 

Alla:

And DH ends with suggestion that Harry scar was not hurting him for 
niteeen years. All was well. Not all was well with Harry and his 
family, but all was well. I think all was well with the world is a 
reasonable intepretation too.

Nothing about new evil lord coming or anything like that. All was 
well.

Not saying that you have to like it, just do not see it as 
fundamentally different from TDiR in that sense. I mean, men will be 
in control, but Will is still there to watch over just in case? And 
maybe call Old ones back to fight their battles for mankind again?

And then erase their memories all over again?

I mean, would it not be the reasonable interpretation of that ending?


> > Alla:
> > 
> > And this - not at all. Didn't you said that you go back to reread 
> the 
> > scenes with another expectations in mind? Now we know that set up 
> in 
> > HBP was set up for something different. So how is it a waste of 
> time 
> > if it worked for different choice that author made?
> 
> Magpie:
> Because it didn't work, imo. <SNIP>

Alla:

Oh, okay.