Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 182451


> Alla:
Let's see who was HAPPY about Voldemort's reign. On the top 
> of my head I remember Bella and
. Bella. Fake Moody would have been 
> happy I grant you that.

Pippin:
Off the top of *my* head,  Crabbe, Goyle, Pansy, Umbridge and Runcorn
were enthusiastic, to say the least. 

> Pippin:
> This whole argument takes the events of DH out of context.
Scrimgeour had a whole year during which the Ministry attempted to
counter Voldemort with all the resources it could command, including
far more professional dark wizard fighters than were part of the
Order. It didn't work.
> 
> Why should the Order adopt the same failed tactics?
> 
> Alla:
> 
> What failed tactics? I remember Scrimgeour desperately trying to
make  Harry work with him. 

Pippin:
Yikes! Who are you, and what have you done with the real Alla?
<veg>

The burden of this thread, IIRC, was that the WW should have been able
to fight this war without Harry, and now you're saying that the only
reason Scrimgeour failed was that Harry wouldn't help him? LOL!

*Whoever* undertook to fight this war, whether it was Harry or
somebody else, would face the same problem that Harry, Dumbledore and
Scrimgeour faced. The WW was so fractured that nearly everyone was
struggling with divided loyalties. You had your choice of a team that
was too small, loyal but overburdened, or one that was big enough to
do the job but by the law of averages bound to include either someone
who could be subverted or someone too careless to keep a secret from 
those who had been subverted already. 

What I'm saying is that Scrimgeour had a year to try the big team
approach, and he failed. 

It is canon fact that when Harry did include others in his search, it
wasn't  long before someone loyal to the DE's found out what he was
doing. It didn't matter  because Voldemort had already realized that
his horcruxes were in peril, but it would have mattered if Voldemort
had realized that they were in danger sooner. 

Pippin