Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War

[montavilla47]

No: HPFGUIDX 182454

> Pippin:
> *Whoever* undertook to fight this war, whether it was Harry or
> somebody else, would face the same problem that Harry, Dumbledore and
> Scrimgeour faced. The WW was so fractured that nearly everyone was
> struggling with divided loyalties. You had your choice of a team that
> was too small, loyal but overburdened, or one that was big enough to
> do the job but by the law of averages bound to include either someone
> who could be subverted or someone too careless to keep a secret from 
> those who had been subverted already.

Montavilla47:
That's a really interesting way of putting it, Pippin.  And, when you do 
put that way, Harry's refusal to trust the Order does make sense.  After all,
*someone* let slip about their escape plan from Privet Drive.  And, 
because of that slip, Mad-Eye Moody died and George was permanently
disfigured.

However, Harry was quite adamant at that point that the Order *was*
trustworthy.

The sad irony is that the traitor was their general, Dumbledore, who ordered
Snape to leak the information.


Pippin:
> What I'm saying is that Scrimgeour had a year to try the big team
> approach, and he failed. 
> 
> It is canon fact that when Harry did include others in his search, it
> wasn't  long before someone loyal to the DE's found out what he was
> doing. It didn't matter  because Voldemort had already realized that
> his horcruxes were in peril, but it would have mattered if Voldemort
> had realized that they were in danger sooner. 

Montavilla47:
But those loyal to the DE (I assume you mean Crabbe and possibly Goyle)
didn't find out because Harry decided to let other people help.  They
found out because McGonagall alerted the school that Voldemort was
coming.  

Or, if you're talking about Alecto (who alerted Voldemort), IIRC, she found
out because she was hiding in the Ravenclaw Common room, having been
warned by Voldemort that Harry might show up there.

Which happened when Voldemort learned about Harry escaping from 
the bank.  Which again, wasn't due to his getting help from Griphook,
but simply because they botched the heist.