Imperius Curse and Harry (was Re: re:Imperalisk/

potioncat willsonkmom at msn.com
Mon Apr 7 21:37:06 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 182457


> Potioncat wrote:
> > > I was absolutely shocked. 

Potioncat now:
I'm reading this with my son, and I blurted out, "It didn't happen 
this way the first time I read it."
"Don't worry Mom, they probably just Oblivated you. Keep reading." 
was his reaction--or something to that effect.
  
> Ceridwen:
> > I don't mind the use of Imperius in such situations, and I 
wouldn't
> mind if Aurors used it to stop a fleeing felon or to secure one
> already caught.  I would mind if they used it to force someone into 
> implicating themselves, such as a Muggle sting operation might do.

Potioncat:
I agree.

>  Carol responds:
snip I actually think that Harry was being unusually clever or
> quick-thinking here (as he is later with the idea of escaping on the
> dragon's back). > 
> (It would be interesting to compare and contrast this situation with
> Snape's use of the Confundus Charm on Mundungus; Snape did get
> Mundungus to do what he wanted him to do and to think that it was 
his
> own idea, but Snape is, of course, more practiced in that sort of
> thing than Harry, so he can evidently do what he needs to do with a
> mere Confundus Charm without resorting to Imperius.)

Potioncat:
Well, JKR said something about wanting the readers to know that 
Harry "is able" to cast these spells so that later we see he chooses 
not to. Something along the line of DD being too noble for some 
spells.

Snape may have a philosophical reason for not using Iperius on 
Mundungus, or it may be a legal one. It could be an Azkaban trip for 
him at this point. But obiviously, he's able to make do with a less 
serious spell.
> 

 
Carol: 
 It's easy to see how such a curse could
> become addictive (Mulciber becomes an Imperius specialist, in 
contrast
> to Bellatrix, who enjoys the more sadistic Cruciatus Curse; the
> Imperius Curse, as we know from GoF, causes a sensation of pleasure
> similar to what a man feels listening to or watching a Veela.

Potioncat:
Yep, I thought that was very interesting too. Could be part of the 
Unforgivable nature of it. Even if you were using it for good, it 
seems to have an effect on the one casting the curse.

> 
> Carol, who wonders what happened to poor Bogrod (and to the
> not-so-pitiable Travers), both of whom must have recovered from the
> unsustained Imperius Curse

Potioncat:
So did I, and not having finished the re-read, I couldn't remember if 
we see him again.
>






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