Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 182459

> 
> Magpie:
> There's no indication this idea is stopping anybody from doing 
> anything. Nobody is afraid that the rain in the office is going to 
> get anyone killed that we see. It's handled pretty much the way the 
> pranks against Umbridge are. 

Pippin:
The Twins tell Harry in OOP that they always consider what kind of
retaliation they are going to face. They had been careful up to that
point not to do anything that would get them expelled. I don't see why
 Rowling should have to write OOP over again -- that's the in depth
look at what living under an oppressive government is like. We see
enough in DH to suggest that the same kinds of things are happening,
only on a larger scale. 

We see Voldemort engage in massive retaliation against his own DE's
for the theft of the cup, and he threatens it against Hogwarts:"Anyone
who continues to resist, man, woman or child,will be slaughtered as
will every member of their family." We're also told that Voldemort's
wrath over the destruction of the diary was terrible to behold, and
that he set Draco at Dumbledore as a way to punish Lucius. 


> > > Magpie:
> >  Harry had very  smooth sailing around all those kinds of 
> potentially more humiliating and humbling conflicts and challenges.
The book wasn't ever going  there, it turned out.
> > 
> > Pippin:
> > Harry did have to humble himself to someone who hated him. He had 
> to surrender to Voldemort, who abused his body and displayed it to
> > Harry's grieving friends. 
> 
> Magpie:
> Harry's not humbling himself, he's martyring himself. He's 
> completely right and Voldemort is completely wrong. 

Pippin:
You're saying it would be *harder* for Harry to give himself up to
someone who was right? Because otherwise I don't see why we should care. 

Pippin