CHAPDISC: DH25, Shell Cottage

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Aug 11 22:21:32 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184041

> 
> Alla:. I am claiming that all  current Slytherins believe that
purebloods rule and I am 
basing it  based on the only representative of younger generation of
Slytherins 
> that I met and got to know at some sort of depth. 

Pippin:
They've all been indoctrinated with the idea that purebloods are
superior (which is just a subset of the belief that wizards in general
are superior. )

 But  there are lots of different ways of reacting to that
indoctrination, from Bella who believed in it more fervently that
Voldemort himself, to Slughorn who thinks he's not prejudiced but
could use some consciousness raising,  to  Snape who  had doubts from
the first and finally rejected it as much as possible.     

Why should I think all the present day Slytherins are like Draco (and
Bella) instead of like one of the others, especially when Draco moves
away from fanaticism over the course of the story, and Harry holds up
Snape as an example? 

> 
> Pippin:
> > It's the same with the goblins. Though we don't meet them, Bill 
> knows goblins that he likes and respects, and cannot help thinking
of as  his friends. Griphook is obviously not interested in that kind
of relationship with humans.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> But where do you get likes and respects part? 

Pippin:
>From Bill's own words:
"I know goblins," said Bill. "I've worked for Gringotts ever since I
left Hogwarts. As far as there can be friendship between wizards and
goblins, I have goblin friends--or at least goblins that I know well
and like." -- DH ch 25.

Obviously those goblins can't be like Griphook, who openly dislikes
wizards and does not seek the friendship or society of humans.

> Alla:
> 
> Huh? The only distinction I am making is that I do not see any 
> student from Slytherin house whom I can respect more than Draco 
> Malfoy. You are not disputing the distinction that neither Snape, nor 
> Regulus, nor Slughorn are NOT current students? 

Pippin:
But why should it matter that they're not current students? In the
books, nobody cares.  Young Albus doesn't say, "But Snape doesn't
count because that was forty years ago."

Pippin





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