The Elder Wand (was: CHAPDISC: DH27, The Final Hiding Place)

[Mike]

No: HPFGUIDX 184187

> Carol again:
> 
> I don't think we're ever going
> to agree on this point, 

>  and I still see no time at which the wand failed LV

>  determine that the Elder Wand is failing him? 

>  There is no evidence *on page* of its failure

>  The wand *did not* fail Voldemort, 

Mike:
And what did Voldemort say?

"No, I have performed my usual magic. I am extraordinary, but this 
wand ... no. It has not revealed the wonders it has promised. I feel 
no difference between this wand and [the yew wand]."

"... wondering, why the Elder Wand refuses to be what it ought to be, 
refuses to perform as legend says it must perform for its rightful 
owner..."

<DH, pp 653-6, Am Ed.>

It's simple really, Carol. You are looking for cut and dried, and 
Voldemort was looking for nuanced. You wanted to see "failure", but 
Voldemort wanted the "legend", wanted the "wonders" revealed.

But you were never going to get "failure", just as Voldemort was 
never going to get the "legend" because he *wasn't* the wand's 
master. 

Criticize the plot all you want, as I have myself, but it's canon 
that Voldemort was not the Elder Wand's master and it's canon that he 
finally realized it.

Mike, who agrees that we will probably continue to disagree on this 
point