Sirius and Snape parallels again - Sirius' death (LONG)

[montavilla47]

No: HPFGUIDX 185087

> lizzyben: 
> After PS, there's not much I'd put past DD - & in that book he 
> basically manipulated *both* Harry & LV to engineer a confrontation 
> between them. He brought LV to the center by bring him back to 
> Hogwarts (Tossing Quirrel into the dumpster...) and then baiting LV 
> w/the Stone, and Harry by teaching him about the Mirror & obstacles. 
> Then he disappeared while the damaged child went into the hidden room 
> to face a dark wizard. 

Montavilla47:
Gotta say, Lizzyben, for the enjoyment factor, this theory is right
up there with ESE Lupin and ESE McGonagall!

>lizzyben:
> Same thing in COS - DD knew full well that 
> Harry would be facing down Riddle. 

Montavilla47:
If he did, the likeliest way for him to know it would be for him
to have either coaxed the story out of Dobby, or gotten it from
Snape, or both.  

Perhaps Dobby came to warn Dumbledore about Lucius having
a Dark Artifact that might threaten Harry Potter.  From the 
description, Dumbledore realizes what it is, and, instead of,
as Dobby hopes, confronting Lucius, sends Snape to his agent
to subtly encourage Lucius to use it this year.  (Perhaps 
dropping hints about the sad number of Mudbloods and how one
of them has the temerity to outdo Draco in classes!)

Thus, when Snape hears a child being killed, his gripping of
the chair is indicative of his guilt--and the fear that this "child"
might be his sworn protectee, Harry.
 
> lizzyben:
> Sirius was Harry's legal guardian & best positioned to take away DD's 
> control of Harry. After Godric's Hollow, DD took Harry away from 
> Sirius while Sirius was still in shock. DD never lifted a finger to 
> help Sirius in Azkaban for 12+ years, even though he never had a 
> trial (I wonder if DD pulled some strings there as well...) After 
> Sirius escaped, IMO DD was not happy, & could think of nothing else 
> to do but to imprision Sirius again...

Montavilla47:
Well, first he got Sirius to go far, far away.  On the pretense that the 
Minister of Magic (who regularly consulted Dumbledore) would never
allow an investigation into Sirius's charges.

>lizzyben:
> ...Until his unfortunate death. And 
> isn't it funny how those charges got cleared immediately after his 
> death? Why wouldn't DD want to clear the charges before? Easy - he 
> did not want Sirius to be free; he wanted Sirius out of the way, one 
> way or another. I'm not sure if any single person suffered as much as 
> Sirius because of DD's machinations. And I don't even like the guy, 
> but come on. You don't have to like someone to recognize when they 
> are being mistreated.

Montavilla47:
And if it is DD's machinations, that explains why Peter was allowed
to live with Snape without the Order arranging for his arrest.  It's not
like Snape wasn't going to tell DD about Lily's real killer being his
roommate.  I'm sure that if DD really had wanted those charges 
cleared up, they could have come up with a plan in which Peter 
was arrested and yet Snape had deniability.  

There isn't any reason given for Peter's presence in Snape's home
(from DD's side).  We'd all sort of assumed that Dumbledore 
allowed him to stay there, unarrested, because it kept Snape 
entirely free from suspicion and because that life debt thingy
might come into play.  Well, if it did, it was the wimpiest life
debt ever.  Or else, it came into play when Peter used Harry's 
blood and accidentally gave him that "Get Out of Death Free"
card.  

But it was Sirius who paid the price for that decision.

>lizzyben:
> At King's Cross, DD is left wondering if he was any better than 
> Voldemort. That's way, way, more than just not telling Harry the 
> truth. Harry gives him the ringing endorsement that 
> DD "only killed people when you had to!" To which DD agrees "True, 
> true." So DD agrees that he has killed people "when he had to." But 
> DD never actually killed Grindewald, or Voldemort, or any Death 
> Eaters that we see. He claims not to know if he killed Ariana. Yet he 
> remains wracked w/guilt over the people that he has killed. So the 
> question remains - who exactly has DD killed? 

Montavilla47:
I'll give you one:  Emmeline Vance.  Snape claims to have given
Voldemort information that led to her capture and death.  We know
he wouldn't have given that information without express orders.


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