Dumbledore the Manipulator WAS :Re: Sirius and Snape parallels again

Carol justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 8 18:15:21 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 185123

Alla wrote:
> 
> The last moment I see of Snape when he hears about Dumbledore's plan
is pig for slaughter. I do not see anything to the contrary, him 
expressing that this is such a cool idea. His guilt does not show, 
neither does his hearty approval. I believe that this means that he
felt it was a wrong thing to do, but he would do so since it was 
Dumbledore's orders and he always followed them.

Carol responds:

Once Snape knows that Harry has a soul bit in him and that Dumbledore
has been withholding that information from him, he has essentially
three choices: Go along with Dumbledore's plan, including informing
Harry at the right time; find a way to tell Harry now, before he
(Snape) is forced to kill DD, that Harry has a soul bit in his head;
or do nothing. setting aside the Unbreakable Vow, which would probably
kill him if he did nothing, what is Snape supposed to do? His whole
job, until the time comes for him to kill DD, protect the students,
help Harry secretly, and eventually tell Harry about the soul bit, is
to pretend to be loyal to Voldemort and find out information about
him, meanwhile feeding him what seems to be valuable information and
fulfilling his duties as DADA teacher. Snape can't blow his cover;
he'll only get himself killed and accomplish nothing. He can't kill LV
himself; he knows that LV has to face Harry so the sould bit can be
destroyed. He's not about to switch sides, and no one else has any
kind of plan that will work. He can't confide what Dumbledore has told
him to McGonagall or anyone else. I really don't see what else Snape
is supposed to do except what he's doing, most important to inform
Harry before Harry confronts Voldemort--which he'll do with or without
the knowledge Snape can give him--that he has a soul bit in his scar.
>From there, it's up to Harry. If Harry *doesn't* know about the soul
bit and simply tries to kill Voldemort, sure, Harry will survive, but
so will the soul bit. (Snape doesn't know about the Love magic that
will be triggered by Harry's self-sacrifice; all he knows is that
Harry has to die to destroy the soul bit, and he, Snape, is the only
one, after DD is dead, who can pass on this info to Harry.

The only other possibility is for DD to tell Harry himself before
Snape is forced to kill him, but he seems to have rejected that
option. But from the moment Dumbledore knew that Harry had a soul bit
in his head, he had no choice but to groom Harry to face Voldemort at
some point. which would have happened anyway, given Voldemort's
knowledge of the partial prophecy. It would be wrong to teach him
nothing and just let things happen; it would be worse to let LV's
followers whild Harry was a small child just to be rid of a soul bit.
The only other option is to protect and teach Harry, telling him about
the soul bit when the time comes. I see no good way to deal with such
a situation, but surely, training Harry for an inevitable
confrontation (and teaching him about the Horcruxes) is the least of
the three evils.

Carol, who is, again, no fan of Dumbledore's but sees no other option
for him with regard to Harry





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