[HPforGrownups] Dumbledore the Manipulator WAS :Re: Sirius and Snape parallels again

[Sherry Gomes]

No: HPFGUIDX 185110

Pippin:
Anyway, I still don't get the scenario where Sirius doesn't want his godson
to share his values. Harry couldn't possibly respect anyone who was that
much of a hypocrite. And neither would I. 

"I believe that people should die to protect their friends, but I don't want
you to do it " -- that's not saying I love you. It's either saying my values
are okay for me but not for you, or else that my friends were worth dying
for but yours aren't. I think Sirius would have been risking a punch in the
nose if he'd tried that one. And he'd have earned it.



Sherry:
I don't think it would have been hypocritical for Sirius to try to protect
Harry and to keep him from sacrificing himself.  I think it would have been
parental and normal.  A parent may throw himself or herself in front of a
speeding car to keep their child from getting hit, but they would not want
that child, even as an adult, to do the same for them.  I think Sirius would
have been willing to die for his friends, and I think he would have been
willing to die to keep Harry from doing the same thing.  The Sirius in GOF
acted like a parental figure, in my opinion, trying to keep Harry from
risking himself.  The Sirius in OOTP was completely different.  harry might
still go off and die to rid the world of Voldemort, but Sirius wouldn't be
human, or shall we say, wouldn't have been acting parental if you like, if
he'd just stood back and said ok, go for it kiddo, without a protest,
without trying to find some other way, and without wanting to beat the hell
out of both Dumbledore and Voldemort.  Even Harry, in DH chapter 34, is
somewhat relieved not to see Ron and Hermione, because he doesn't want to
argue with them about what he must do.  

Sherry