Sirius and Snape parallels again.

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"Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> If we condemn Dumbledore for manipulating people

But I don't condemn Dumbledore for that. In general I think there is
nothing wrong with manipulating people; at this very instant you are
trying to manipulate me toward your point of view and I am trying to
manipulate you toward mine. It's what debate is all about and it's fun.

But of course trying to manipulate someone to do something that will
cause more harm than good is another matter entirely; but the evil in
that is in the end result of that manipulation, not in the manipulation itself.

> we should also condemn Sirius, with the only ameliorating factor
> being Sirius's immaturity.

That and perhaps also Snape's extreme unpleasantness. I'm not proud of
it, but I can see myself pulling something similar to the prank to a
git like Snape; but I can also see myself having second thoughts about
it and warning Snape about it. What can I say but I have my faults?

> Carol, who doesn't know what to think of JKR's "good" characters
> any more

I think it means even a good character is not a perfect character, and
good thing too because perfect characters are dull dull dull.

Eggplant