Whom did Dumbledore torture and kill?

[Angel Lima]

No: HPFGUIDX 181210

Alla:

Thanks. That's one broad definition of murder though in my opinion. 
I am pretty sure that if you ask Dumbledore himself he would agree 
that he is partially responsible for the deaths of people you 
mentioned.

By the way, by this definition I take it you believe that Snape is 
also responsible for the deaths of Potters? 

Angel:
Absolutely!  I blame Snape for the death of the Potters as much as I laud him for "creating" Harry Potter, the boy who lived.

Acceptance is part of healing, which I am sure is why Dumbledore admitted to his role in Sirius' death, hence no need for me to ask what I already know

Alla:

But I can only assign him some percentage of liability here and not 
very high.

Angel:
However little you perceive Snape's role in the death of the Potters, does not negate the fact, he gave Voldemort a reason to hunt them specifically, neither does Dumbledore's intentions negate his culpability in the deaths of the people I had named.

Alla:

I am especially wondering how you make Dumbledore responsible for 
the death of Grindelwald ( or is Gryndel somebody else I do not 
remember?) I am sorry, I am really not sure here.

Angel:
No Gryndel is Grindelward, it's just terribly hard for me to write these big names for characters that are clearly so comically dimwitted.  And you are quite right again in the fact that Dumbledore did not hit Gryndel with an avada kedavra.  I apportioned part of the blame for Gryndel's death on Dumbledore because Gryndel did not have the Eldar wand and according to Dumbledore - never did!  Yet the images Harry and Voldemort saw had Gryndel stealing the Eldar wand, which undoubtedly led to Voldemort seeking Gryndel and metaphorically it was a photograph with Dumbledore that identified Gryndel, in the end.

Alla:

Moody and Sirius, sure, I would give Dumbledore some part of blame, 
but I still doubt that he wanted them to die.

Angel:

Perhaps you misunderstand me!  Intentions had little to do with my original post, but the fact remains that Dumbledore's meddling, cold and risky calculations led to these people's deaths.

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