James and Sirius as Bullies/ some Snape

[montavilla47]

No: HPFGUIDX 181239

> Alla:
> 
>I feel like Snape is always in the 
> shadows, always evasive, that it is always unclear what he did or he 
> did not do and that this is true to a degree even when canon is 
> closed, while with Marauders their hearts are on their sleeves ( and 
> this can be said in good or bad way of course), we know whom  they 
> hated or whom they liked.
> 
> By this I do not think that they are less complicated characters, I 
> mean, I am very happy with what we got about Sirius' in OOP  and its 
> complexity, but once we got that plot reversal with them ( that they 
> were bullies in Pensieve scene or more than in Pensieve scene), that 
> was pretty much it.


Montavilla47:
That does make excellent sense, Alla.  Up until DH, I would have 
agreed with you completely about that.

I still agree mostly, I certainly agree that we know who the Marauders
liked and who they didn't like.  (We might disagree about how *much*
Sirius liked Lupin and vice versa... with some saying they were pretty
good friends and some saying they were lovers, but what the hey.  
That's just a matter of degree.)

What threw me about James in DH was that I always supposed that
the saving Snape was a big thing for him--that it was a positive
step toward maturity.  I never, ever imagined that the Prank 
came before SWM.

Now I know that James didn't grow up because his friends
nearly caused the death of a student, I'm flabbergasted.  I feel like
Harry, who felt like his beloved Prince had turned savage on him.
Not that I was ever a big James fan, but I figured what people 
said about him was more or less correct.  

Now, I don't know.  The plot points on James don't connect in 
the same they used to, and I have to use hints and circumstantial
evidence to put him back together again.

Montavilla47