Mistakes in Logic for Deathly Hallows: Kreacher's Tale

Zara zgirnius at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 9 03:12:21 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 181401

> bdclark0423:
> So when Kreacher started to tell Harry about the locket and V's
> cave, JKR says Harry's mind goes back to the same scene and how
> there's the boat enchanted as to carry one wizard and one victim.  I
> started to think back to HBP and don't ever remember a boat
> requiring a wizard and a victim.

zgirnius:
This is just a way to restate what Harry learned. Harry was not a 
victim in HBP, but Voldemort did not create the boat so that he and 
Dumbledore could use it. He created it so he could always bring 
someone else (a victim) with him to drink the potion, if he wanted to 
remove the Horcrux.

Harry does not say the enchantment requires a vitcim. It patently 
does not - Voldemort is able to leave Kreacehr behind and still use 
the boat. The enchantment *permits* a victim to be brought along, is 
all. It would also *prevent* two adult wizards from using the boat.

> bdclark0423:
> Another thing that really had me wondering, though is how does Harry
> know they're called Inferi?  DD didn't even know what they were
> during the entire passage as the only name he uses as description is
> `creatures.'  Then, of course, there isn't any mention of
> them by name by DD to HP up until he dies.

zgirnius:
I see that you might get into trouble with Professor Snape for not 
paying attention in class. <eg> In one of the DADA classes in HBP, 
Harry learns that Inferi are the dead bodies of their victims, 
reanimated by a Dark Wizard. Once he figures out he is dealing with 
reanimated dead bodies, he knows what to call them.

> bdclark0423:
> So if the Elder Wand must always win duels for its owner, how did
> Grindelwald lose the wand to DD?

zgirnius:
It is possible that the Elder Wand does not have to win duels for its 
owner. The wand in the story of the Three Brothers must - the actual 
historical artifact that inspired the story, may perhaps only be a 
wand of great power.

> bdclark0423:
> So if DD knew he couldn't beat the wand, would
> he just find a way take it from him?

zgirnius:
This is my own preferred explanation. One way would be to do so 
literally - Albus is described in terms that lead me to suspect he is 
physically stronger than Gellert.






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