[HPforGrownups] Re: Mistakes made in Deathly Hallows? The Elder Wand

[Lee Kaiwen]

No: HPFGUIDX 181481

Jayne:
> No where in cannon dores it mention that Draco picked it up.

zgirnius:
> It is my opinion that the very act of disarming a wizard is a 
 > defeat of that wizard....

> Likewise Harry defeated Draco by disarming him 

It's hopeless. The logic of this whole sequence is irredeemably 
convoluted. A simple Disarming counts as a defeat. But how many times 
have we seen Disarmed wizards scrambling for the wands and rejoining the 
fray? Nearly every participant in the fight at Malfoy Mansion was 
Disarmed at least once; they all retrieved their wands. In fact, 
throughout the series we've witnessed dozens of Disarmings, with never a 
hint of a change in wand ownership.

And then there's the whole Dueling Club problem, where Disarming 
apparently DOESN'T count as defeat. Why?

And of course, there's the added complication that Harry "disarmed" 
Draco simply by grabbing wands out of Draco's hand. Apparently that DOES 
count. But let's see: Ron disarmed Wormtail by grabbing his wand but 
then was forced by Bellatrix to relinquish it (does THAT count, too? or 
does the wand need to be physically wrested away?). Then later Molly 
defeats Bellatrix. So is Molly now master of Wormtail's wand?

The logic bears all the earmarks of something JKR ill-advisedly pulled 
out of her hat at the last minute to try to rescue a plot that had gone 
badly awry. It just can't be made sense of.

CJ