Apparating to Grimmauld Place

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 16 15:25:16 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 181584

---  Sharon Hayes <s.hayes at ...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering how Hermione managed to bring Yaxley ... 
> from the MOM back to Grimmauld Place when she Apparated them
> after they retrieved Slytherin's locket from Umbridge.  The 
> reason I ask is that GP is under a Fidelius Charm and Yaxley
> didn't know the address. Shouldn't he have been bounced off 
> or something.  In canon it had never been the case you could
> just take someone there by holding their arm, or Apparating 
> them, say, from the park across the road to the front doorstep.
> They ALWAYS had to be given a slip of paper with the address 
> on it before they could see the building and enter it.
> 
> Just curious,
> Sharon
>

bboyminn:

I don't think the Fidelius is an impenetrable wall; I think
it simply hides things. So, no bouncing off if you don't
know the secret. Yaxley was, in a sense, told the secret by
being brought to the Black House by Hermione. I think if
Hermione were not allowed to reveal the secret, she would
not have been allowed to apparate inside the boundary of
the Charm. I guess, in this sense, we could say this 
represents a /sort of/ bouncing off. Any effort to reveal
the secret will be circumvented by the Charm. If you are
about to speak the words, you will either forget in that
instant, or you will find yourself temporarily mute, or 
you will suddenly find yourself distracted by some other
mundane desire. 

If you know the secret and try to guide someone over the
threshold and you are not in a position to be authorized to
reveal the Secret, I think again, somehow the Charm would
stop you. It would force you to turn and head into the 
nearest Tea Shop. Or, as you stepped forward, you would 
suddenly forget where you were going and why. Etc....

However, in DH, the knowers of the Secret are now authorized
to tell. Consequently, I think they could guide someone 
over the threshold. For example, if Neville or Luna wanted
in, but at the same time, Harry did not want to reveal the
secret, he could guide them blindfolded into and out of the 
Black House without any conflict. 

Of course, if he wanted them to know about the House, he
could just tell them. 

Also, we see Dumbledore reveal the Black House to Harry by 
note, but that is certainly not the one and only means. I
suspect for most of the others, Dumbledore simply told them.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn  







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