Slytherins come back WAS: Re: My Most Annoying Character

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No: HPFGUIDX 180190

Magpie:
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In one 
> case we've got Dumbledore telling us what happened, so speculation 
> assumes he's lying or leaving stuff out. In this sentence we're 
> talking about a narrator the author's using to describe the scene 
> with the author having even less reason to lie than Dumbledore 
> andless room for speculation.

Alla:

Huh? I see no difference whatsoever. For some reason speculating 
based on Dumbledore answering Yes to Harry "you never killed if you 
could help it" is a valid speculation. Never mind that as you said 
there are no references to Dumbledore killing **anybody** directly 
in canon. For some reason in this instance it is okay to assume that 
Dumbledore lying or leaving stuff out. Which is as I said fine by 
me. Not that I am assigning to myself a role of ultimate judge of 
what is valid speculation or what not, I just as reader accept it as 
speculation.


BUT when the crowd lead by Slytherin head of the house described 
VAGUELY, it is not Okay to assume that narrator left staff out?????

Why is that? Harry never had been known for remembering many names, 
he sees Slughorn already, so many other things are on his mind - 
finding diadema, etc. You think he will be oh so very concerned with 
whether Blaise and Theo and others returned to fight?

He already experienced change of heart about Regulus, he sees 
Slughorn, who was running before coming back, you think he should 
definitely mention names of the students? That this be oh so very 
important for him? Not in my opinion.


Magpie:
 JKR might have faults as a writer, but 
> she's got the basic competence. If she got information across in 
this 
> convoluted a way in any other part of the book the story would be 
> incoherent. When Ron enters a room she says Ron entered the room, 
she 
> doesn't say: the door opened and there stood Angelina's boyfriend--
> meaning Ron.

Alla:

The way you described - sure. But if for example Harry would have 
lied wounded in the hospital and author would describe the redheaded 
crowd led by Molly to see him, you bet I would assume Ron was among 
them.

JMO,

Alla