Now Rowling's control - It's All True

Carol justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 9 22:37:52 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 180521

Carol earlier:
> > Ergh. I'd rather believe that Harry and Ron returned to Hogwarts
with Hermione and *earned* their positions as Aurors with the proper
training. If Ron became an Auror at all, as both he and Harry
expressed the desire to do in the books.
> >   
> Bart:
> Let's see now. Defeating a foe that all the forces of the Ministry
could not is NOT, with all the forces of the overturned Ministry
against them, plus a bunch of mercenaries, and, in the middle of this,
successfully robbing  Gringrotts of  one of the enemy's secret
weapons, considered to be "earning" their positions, but passing a few
classes is? As engineers sometimes say, 1 + 1 = 3 for large values of
"1". You certainly believe in large values for "earned".

Carol responds:

They didn't defeat the mercenaries. The mercenaries defeated them,
robbing them of their tent and their wands along the way. Then
Bellatrix defeated the mercenaries and Dobby rescued HRH and friends.
With his help, Harry and Ron (not the injured Hermione) were able to
retrieve wands that weren't their own (Wormtail's silver hand helping
them out along the way).

Not skill but luck, as always with Harry. As for robbing Gringotts,
which nearly got them killed, they couldn't have done that without the
help of a certain treacherous little goblin. They couldn't have
destroyed the locket Horcrux without Snape's help (they managed to
lose the Sword of Gryffindor in the robbery of the Lestrange vault),
and none of it could have happened if Harry hadn't had the scar link
to Voldemort's mind. Voldie himself wouldn't have died if if weren't
for the Elder Wand. The shared drop of blood and the soul bit in
Harry's scar also played into the outcome of the battle. I don't see
where skill fit in, myself, only luck, daring, and coincidence. Also,
of course, HRH were the only ones who knew about the Horcruxes, thanks
to Dumbledore.

I don't for a moment question HRH's courage, but courage alone
couldn't defeat Voldemort or Snape could have done it long ago.

Carol, who thinks that Harry would be wise to take Snape's advice
("ShuT your mouth and close your mind!") before he battles any skilled
Death Eaters (but if he's fighting the likes of Crabbe Sr. and Goyle
Sr., no such skill would be necessary)





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