PS/SS chapters 6-11 post DH look

[potioncat]

No: HPFGUIDX 180991


> 
> Alla:
> "Ah,yes," - he said softly, "Harry Potter. Our new - celebrity" - 
> p.136.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Hee, the infamous first potion lesson. No, it did not appear to me 
> in a new light all together, still hate what Snape did here, BUT I 
> have a question. Why doesn't he just say  "our celebrity"? Who was 
> celebrity before Harry, the old celebrity?
> 
> Is it a reference to James? Is it a reference to Tom Riddle or 
> somebody else?

Potioncat:
For that matter, what does "Our" mean? 'Harry Potter. The new 
celbrity, or Harry Potter. The celebrity'......all work. But the 
rhythm is particularly good the original way.

>From a post-DH standpoint and post-multiple-inteview standpoint----we 
know that Snape genuinely dislikes Harry. He has a mistaken 
impression of him.

The very first sentence of Chapter 8 The Potions Master has to do 
with Harry's celebrity. The students are staring and whispering and 
changing their routes to get a glimpse of him. Surely Snape would 
have been well aware of it.

The chapter switches to a sort of summary of Harry's first week and 
draws up to the first Potions class. Before Harry even gets to class 
we're told: 1)Snape favors Slytherins; 2)that potions will be the 
worse thing that has happened; 3)Harry had gotten the idea at the 
banquet that Snape disliked him: 4)Snape hates him.

Clearly, both Harry and Snape have an impression before they even 
meet.

In an interview several years ago, JKR said that some of the WW 
thought that Harry must be a powerful Dark Wizard to have vanquished 
LV as a baby. I always thought that the Slyhterin students would be 
of that mind, and that Snape was quizing Harry in order to disprove 
it to them. Now that we know how little DD communicated, I wonder if 
Snape also suspected Harry might have Dark powers.


 
> Alla:
> 
> Do you think that this exchange indicates that Twins do not have 
> Marauders map at this point in time yet?

Potioncat:
I think it indicates that JKR slipped up on this one. Unless the map 
was not as clear when they first found it as it is when they give it 
to Harry. They're pretty tallented; they might have improved upon it.
> 
 


> 
> "Hardly anyone had seen Harry play because Wood had decided that, 
as 
> their secret weapon, Harry should be kept, well, secret." - p.180.

> Alla 
> I know it is reference to Qudditch, but I cannot help but remember 
> that Harry as a secret weapon motive goes through OOP and cannot 
> help but read this line with it in mind as well.


Potioncat:
Harry had already been kept secret for nearly 11 years. As well 
having secrets kept from him. The layers of secrets in this series
is astounding.

Thanks Alla for this look back at SS/PS!