Whom did Dumbledore torture and killed? WAS: Re: re:Scrimgeour/Werew

[allthecoolnamesgone]

No: HPFGUIDX 181111

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
> Please, before anyone jumps on me, I'm being facetious here.
> Ironically, Harry's attempt to "save" his godfather (who is 
perfectly
> safe in 12 GP) leads to Black's death, but Harry doesn't kill him or
> even intend his death. (Neither, again ironically, does Voldemort or
> Kreacher--or even Bella, till he shows up where he's not supposed to
> be. And his innocent attempt to retrieve that photograph does lead 
to
> the murder of Grindelwald (and move LV a step closer to resolving 
the
> mystery of the Elder Wand), but that is in no way Harry's fault.
> 
> Carol, afraid that her complicated reasoning process is less than
> clear but trying to distinguish between murder and unintended
> consequences of both random choices and well-laid plans that gang 
aglay
>

Allthecoolnamesgone

I agree that this is one of the major themes of the books and perhaps 
one of the reasons for their popularity. After all this is what life 
is like for all of us. We make choices and live with the world we 
create by them, good or ill. There's no way out either as failure to 
choose is also a choice. Isn't this after all the psychological 
definition of 'Angst', the anxiety caused when we realise the 
enormity of the choices we face.

I have pondered over who made and what was the 'key' choice on which 
the whole Harry Potter books turned. It could be Snape's choice to 
join the Death Eaters which then led to him telling V the Prophecy, 
which led to the Potter's deaths, which led to Harry becoming the 
Chosen one, which led to.... and so on. Or was it James's choice at 
age 11 to insult Snape and befriend Sirius whicb led to them bullying 
Snape who then joined the Death Eaters out of a need to belong.... 
and so on.

It is a fascinating trail of discussion and I guess then lead to the 
question of whether it is our 'choices' that define us or are we all 
pawns in a greater game?

allthecoolnamesgone