student!Snape keeping Lupin's secret (was Re: Sirius as a dog)

littleleahstill leahstill at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 29 16:02:00 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 181119

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
  
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> After his conversation with Lily I personally had no doubt that he 
> at the very least had that theory about who Lupin is before prank 
> happened. As you said, he is not a fool. I believe that he assigns 
> that essay for Hermione to figure out who Lupin was because he 
> figured that out himself in the similar way.
> 
> As to why would he go - he considers himself DADA expert, does he 
> not? I believe that he was daring enough to try and defeat 
the "dark 
> creature". 
> 
> And of course he believes it was an attempt to kill him. He can do 
> it independently of thinking that he can defeat werewolf IMO.

Leah: Yes, he clearly suspected Lupin's lycanthropy before the 
Prank, which makes it odd that he goes down the tunnel.  As 
Potioncat says, we need more information about the Prank.  But your 
view must imply that Snape knew prior to entering the tunnel that 
Sirius was intending to kill/turn him, but that Snape believed he 
could best Lupin and failed.  We know from Lupin in POA that all 
Snae saw was a glimpse of Lupin at the end of the tunnel. There was 
absolutely no failed attempt by Snape to defeat Lupin.  Snape 
doesn't say to Harry, "I could have taken Lupin on, but your dad 
prevented me'. Instead, Snape is enraged years afterwards because he 
has been unexpectedly exposed to death by Sirius. (And if Snape is a 
DADA expert, he would know how difficult it is to defeat a werewolf) 
>  
> > Leah:  In what way is watching someone take a potion sadistic??
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I have to take certain medication every day. And believe me if 
> somebody would stood nearby me and insisted that I have to drink 
> this medication while he watches, I would have told this person to 
> go away NOW. 

Leah: Without there being any reason for you being watched, I would 
sympathise with that, though it seems more annoying than sadistic.   
But, as I said, Snape knows Lupin is on the turn and Harry is with 
him.  It's part of Snape's duty to make sure Harry is not at risk 
from WereLupin and also Snape himself fears WereLupin and does not 
trust Lupin.  From my own point of view, if I was giving insulin to 
an adult diabetic in my household, I wouldn't expect it to be 
injected in front of me. But if I was giving medication to a violent 
schizophrenic who had already put me in serious danger, and who I 
did not trust to take that medication, then yes, I would stand 
there, whether I was told to go away or not.  It may be also (though 
this is pure assumption) that Snape is checking for any reactions to 
the potion.  In any event, Lupin does not object.      



  
> 
> Alla:
> 
> It is an assumption though. How do you know that the potion CAN be 
> made less perfectly and still been safe for Lupin? For all I know 
> the potion should be done a certain way ONLY, and to do it the 
other 
> way means to make the potion uneffective. And Snape told 
Dumbledore 
> that he would make it. Less perfect potions if such existed may 
have 
> sabotaged the transformations and something tells me that 
Dumbledore 
> would have been very unhappy if he learned about it. IMO of course.

Leah: Not much to say, as we are both assuming here.
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Sure he was keeping quiet. If Dumbledore extracted a promise back 
> then, I think he could do it later as well.

Leah: But why would Snape keep his word to Dumbledore during Snape's 
Death Eater period, when Dumbledore has no power over him, other 
than that Snape believes in keeping his word?



Leah






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