student!Snape keeping Lupin's secret (was Re: Sirius as a dog)
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willsonkmom at msn.com
Tue Jan 29 18:42:31 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 181124
> Lea:
> But your
> > view must imply that Snape knew prior to entering the tunnel that
> > Sirius was intending to kill/turn him, but that Snape believed he
> > could best Lupin and failed.
> Alla:
Should he have done so? No. But
> besides that, nobody forced Snape to go to that tunnel as far as we
> know.
Potioncat:
The way I read the memory in DH, Snape had suspected for some time
that Lupin was a werewolf. So, why did he follow?
Someone suggested that he expected to find a contained werewolf.
After all, if the Marauders could go visit him safely, then Snape
should be able to as well. He was expecting to see a werewolf, not
encounter one.
Also, I've granted before that Sirius acted both foolishly and
impulsively. I can grant that Severus did the same. They were 16 and
I know what a 16 year-old can be like. (My son's 18 now and not much
better.)
Adult Snape may still think that Sirius wanted him to be killed---
Sirius doesn't do anything to prove differently in the Shrieking
Shack. That's what Snape believes.
The thing is, Severus doesn't seem too upset about it when he talks
to Lily, yet he's beside himself about it in PoA. Of course, by then
he thinks Sirius has also betrayed Lily.
> Alla:
>
> I thought he enjoyed having a power over Lupin and of course in
> front of Harry Lupin would not object IMO.
Potioncat:
It's the first Hogsmeade weekend. Potter isn't allowed to go. Lupin
has recently embarassed Snape by suggesting Neville's Gran!Snape
Boggart. First read, we think Snape is mad about the Boggart. (Well,
he is, but there is so much more.)
Snape's year during PoA is dedicated to protecting Potter, even more
than before--because now Black is after Potter, and Black's old
friend is at Hogwarts. Even without reason to distrust Lupin, Lupin
is a werewolf and will be transforming shortly.
So, Snape shows up with the potion, and to his surprise, Potter is in
Lupin's office. Lupin will change shortly and Potter is in his
office. Snape wants to see Lupin drink the potion, because Potter is
in the office.
Potter is in the office with a soon-to-be werewolf.
What's the issue?
Well, that explanation and I'm a nurse--I always watch patients take
medicine when I give it to them. Sometimes makes for uncomfortable
moments.
> > > Alla:
> > >
> > > Sure he was keeping quiet. If Dumbledore extracted a promise
> back
> > > then, I think he could do it later as well.
Potioncat:
So the credit isn't Snape's for keeping a promise, it's DD's for
forcing it? Actually, I'd like to know more. We're only told that he
forbade Severus to tell. Could mean anything. I of course, take it to
mean, that Snape agreed and Snape kept his word.
Alla:
>
> I believe it shows to me that at the end he finally let his grudge
> go in favor of saving people, whether he believed those people
> wronged him or not. But to me the whole point of that lovely moment
> is to show growth on Snape's behalf, not that he was like this all
> the time of his life. Again IMO, I am not asking anybody to agree
> with me and know that many people view Snape's whole life in much
> noble view than I do :)
Potioncat:
Agreeing to both parts of this--I think. ;-)
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