student!Snape keeping Lupin's secret (was Re: Sirius as a dog)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 181129

> Potioncat:
> The way I read the memory in DH, Snape had suspected for some time 
> that Lupin was a werewolf. So, why did he follow?


Alla:

Yes, a million dollar question that would bug me for a years to 
come, snort. Please JKR do tell us your answer, I want to know what 
you think.


Potioncat:
> Someone suggested that he expected to find a contained werewolf. 
> After all, if the Marauders could go visit him safely, then Snape 
> should be able to as well. He was expecting to see a werewolf, not 
> encounter one.

Alla:

Totally possible. The thing is - still stupid and still Snape's 
decision IMO. 
 
Potioncat:
> Also, I've granted before that Sirius acted both foolishly and 
> impulsively. I can grant that Severus did the same. They were 16 
and 
> I know what a 16 year-old can be like. (My son's 18 now and not 
much 
> better.)

Alla:

Absolutely and by the way, if I look at Snape's decision to go there 
and if he acted foolishly and impulsively, I am NOT blaming him for 
it. I mean, I am trying to say that I do not think that acting 
foolishly and impulsively is a grave offense for teenager - be it 
Snape or Sirius.

But when it is being told that Snape **going** there is Sirius' 
fault and Sirius' fault only, I am sorry, no way, no how, not in my 
book ( and this is not a reply to you dearest just general remark).

Sirius **told** Snape how to get there, that's all he did for all I 
know.

As far as I am concerned, after book 7, love Sirius' character as I 
am, Remus had an absolute right to tell him go jump in the lake 
after what he did and never take him back as a friend. He betrayed 
his friend I think. Did he mean it? Probably not, but he should have 
think before he spoke, I think.

But as to Snape? He did not do anything to him Sirius, I mean. He 
told him how to pass by that door, that's all. Everything else - 
Snape's decision IMO.

Potioncat: 
> Adult Snape may still think that Sirius wanted him to be killed---
> Sirius doesn't do anything to prove differently in the Shrieking 
> Shack. That's what Snape believes. 
> 
> The thing is, Severus doesn't seem too upset about it when he 
talks 
> to Lily, yet he's beside himself about it in PoA. Of course, by 
then 
> he thinks Sirius has also betrayed Lily.


Alla:

OMG. I appreciate it very much, but do you realize what you just 
wrote? I did not make the connection till I just read it.

But you were always one of my inspirations of trying to look at my 
favorites more or less objectively, so I should not be surprised. ( 
NO I am not claiming that I always look at my favorites objectively, 
but I think you do it very often and I am trying to :))

He indeed does not seem too upset there contrary to Shack, doesn't 
he? As far as I am concerned that further
diminishes his claim that Sirius tried to kill him. Maybe he knew 
full well that he is as much to blame for knowing whom he can meet 
there and still going.

And yes, I totally can believe that in his mind his rage at Sirius 
was really for supposedly betraying Lily and it somehow substituted 
in believing that Sirius was trying to kill him instead. 


> > > > Alla:
> > > > 
> > > > Sure he was keeping quiet. If Dumbledore extracted a promise 
> > back 
> > > > then, I think he could do it later as well.
> 
> Potioncat:
> So the credit isn't Snape's for keeping a promise, it's DD's for 
> forcing it? Actually, I'd like to know more. We're only told that 
he 
> forbade Severus to tell. Could mean anything. I of course, take it 
to 
> mean, that Snape agreed and Snape kept his word.


Alla:

Oh no I am sure he did keep his word till the occassion arised that 
is. I mean, look if Snape would have never told, I could have no 
reason to doubt that he agreed and kept his word ever since, but 
since he did told eventually, I believe that he was biting his time.

And I am not sure if I can say that extracting word from Snape was 
exactly to Dumbledore's credit per se. Not that I think that he 
should have let Remus' suffer because of Sirius' idiocy and Snape 
erm... curiosity, but I am just saying that I do not believe that 
forcing student not to tell can be said to that Headmaster's credit, 
if that makes sense.

 
>> Potioncat:
> Agreeing to both parts of this--I think. ;-)
>


Alla:

Well, look if I am slapped with hard cold canon fact, how can I deny 
it? :)

Him saving Lupin is not exactly open to interpretation :)

Alla