student!Snape keeping Lupin's secret (was Re: Sirius as a dog)
Zara
zgirnius at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 30 21:49:56 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 181150
> Carol:
> On a sidenote, you spoke of the Marauder's bullying Severus as a
> recurring thing, but I don't think that's the case. I think they
> routinely hexed each other in the hallways like Harry and Draco, but
> the two-on-one sneak attack reads to me like retaliation for
Severus's
> attempt to get them in trouble by getting into the Shrieking Shack.
> (Sirius is conveniently forgetting who put him up to it.)
zgirnius:
I disagree. Leah has presented most of the evidence for me in her
excellent post in reply to yours:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/181145. I shall
simply add the additional points I see in favor of the supposition
that the Marauders had a pattern of ganging up on Snape.
One is the detention records Harry sees in HBP. There is a double
detention in there served by James and Sirius together for using an
illegal hex on one Bertram Aubrey. Between this, the train scene, and
SWM, I see plenty of evidence to conclude ganging up on other
students was an established pattern of behavior for James and Sirius.
Do we really think they would make a (positive) exception for
Severus, attacking him only individually?
Another is a detail of SWM not mentioned by Leah. The students whose
reaction to the scene was "apprehensive" seem, again, to point to a
pattern of behavior by the Marauders that intimidated other
students. `Fair' hexing matches with `worthy' opponents seems
unlikely to create this reaction, IMO.
> Carol:
> Just because he was skinny and nerdy doesn't mean he couldn't cast a
> mean curse--and invent them as well, as we learn in HBP.
zgirnius:
As, indeed, he does in SWM, when not being choked, flipped upside
down, and dropped on the ground by his two attackers. No one is
suggesting he was a victim of bullying because, as an individual, he
was weak magically, or spineless. We are suggesting he was
outnumbered.
Also, the fact that he may on occasion have initiated one-on-one
hexing with James, and James may have retaliated in kind (especially
when hexing in public as a group activity could have annoyed the new
girlfriend in 7th year <g>) does not preclude his having been bullied
by James *and his gang* on other occasions.
-zgirnius, never weak nor skinny, but only one glorious time able to
use this to her advantage in school <bg>
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