student!Snape keeping Lupin's secret (was Re: Sirius as a dog)

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No: HPFGUIDX 181151

> zgirnius:
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>> One is the detention records Harry sees in HBP. There is a double 
> detention in there served by James and Sirius together for using 
an 
> illegal hex on one Bertram Aubrey. Between this, the train scene, 
and 
> SWM, I see plenty of evidence to conclude ganging up on other 
> students was an established pattern of behavior for James and 
Sirius. 
> Do we really think they would make a (positive) exception for 
> Severus, attacking him only individually?
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Alla:

I do not know about "us" but I think that they certainly attacked 
Snape individially and not individually, just as Snape attacked them 
individually or not.

Nobody contradicted Sirius at the end of seven books that Snape ran 
with Slytherin gang. Nobody contradicted Sirius that Snape was in 
close relationships with Malfoy and I think that the fact that 
Narcissa came to him in HBP to save her son strengthens that 
assertion.
Nobody told us at the end of seven books that Marauders stole 
Snape's precious book, so I take it that they did not steal anything 
and Snape spread it out himself or with the help of his Slytherin 
friends.

I conclude from this that there were plenty of times when Snape was 
not outnumbered at all, while of course sometimes he could have been 
and we saw one of those times IMO. 

Zara: 
> Another is a detail of SWM not mentioned by Leah. The students 
whose 
> reaction to the scene was "apprehensive" seem, again, to point to 
a 
> pattern of behavior by the Marauders that intimidated other 
> students. `Fair' hexing matches with `worthy' opponents seems 
> unlikely to create this reaction, IMO.

Alla:

Um, that can be the reaction of people who are affraid that Snape 
will get up and start hexing them with Sectusemptra left and right, 
no?

Or that Malfoy and Co shows up and do the same thing with Snape.



 
> > Carol:
> > Just because he was skinny and nerdy doesn't mean he couldn't 
cast a
> > mean curse--and invent them as well, as we learn in HBP.
> 
> zgirnius:
> As, indeed, he does in SWM, when not being choked, flipped upside 
> down, and dropped on the ground by his two attackers. No one is 
> suggesting he was a victim of bullying because, as an individual, 
he 
> was weak magically, or spineless. We are suggesting he was 
> outnumbered.

Alla:

Of course he was **that time** IMO.

Zara:
> Also, the fact that he may on occasion have initiated one-on-one 
> hexing with James, and James may have retaliated in kind 
(especially 
> when hexing in public as a group activity could have annoyed the 
new 
> girlfriend in 7th year <g>) does not preclude his having been 
bullied 
> by James *and his gang* on other occasions. 
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Alla:

Totally does not preclude, I agree, I just do not see enough 
evidence to buy it, that's all.