student!Snape keeping Lupin's secret (was Re: Sirius as a dog)

montavilla47 montavilla47 at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 31 06:16:30 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 181159


> Montavilla47:
> > As for Rosier, Wilkes, Mulciber, or Avery, they might have shown
> > up, but they pointed didn't.  None of Snape's housemates lifted
> > a finger.  He had to be rescued by a *girl*.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> But they were not in the vicinity, no? Snape's classmates I mean.

Montavilla47 (again):
But they should have been in the vicinity.  SWM took place immediately 
following an O.W.L. exam.  All the fifth year students were in the 
commons.  Snape's alleged Slytherin buddies did not walk with
him out of the exam hall, or acknowledge him at all.  Again, that's 
not the way it works when you have buddies--as we see with the 
Marauders.  They come out of the exam talking about the questions,
trading comments, etc.

All anyone knows about Snape, according to either Lupin or Black,
was that Snape was up to his eyeballs in Dark Arts.  So, if he was 
in with a gang in Slytherin, wouldn't they be coming up to him
after class and asking him about the questions?

Perhaps they were all sick in the hospital wing that day?


> Montavilla47:
> <SNIP>
> > But it seems wrong in the dynamics of school boy groups for one
> > group to attack the mascot of another gang without instant 
> > retaliation.  So that if Snape had any value to the Future Death
> > Eaters of Hogwarts, they'd have come running with their wands
> > out immediately, no matter how "cool" James and Sirius are.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Retaliation could have happened afterwards, no? I do not see that 
> they just should have come running immediately.
> 

Montavilla47:
Retaliation could come later.  But, if they were present at the time,
and they should have been (unless all ill in the hospital), retaliation
is due immediately.

Otherwise your gang is lame.


> Lea:
> >
> > Just a further quick thought on the Marauders and persistant 
> bullying. 
> <SNIP analogy, go upthread to read it>
> > An interesting analogy.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Yes, I remember that analogy :) Wormtail liked to join powerful 
> people all right. 
> 
> You think Snape as Malfoy lapdog had some merit as well?

Montavilla47:
(raises hand)  I do!  I don't have much to back it up with, but 
I think that Malfoy probably did take Severus under his wing.

Malfoy had the right qualities for high-status in Slytherin.
He was pureblood, he was rich, he was well-connected.  With
his patronage, Severus would have probably have been 
seen by the Marauders as running with a "gang" of older 
students.

It's an odd thing, but when Sirius talks about Snape 
running with a Slytherin gang, he talks about it with a 
kind of distance.  As though he didn't have much to do 
with Snape at that point.

Had it been gang against gang, I think he would have 
mentioned that.  But it's not really evidence, is it, what
Sirius the dog animagi *didn't* say in the cave?







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