Working mothers, was Did the Slytherins come back
sistermagpie
sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Fri Mar 14 16:55:18 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 182069
Betsy:
> Combine that with the fact that girls can enter the boys dorms
> whenever they like and you've got a series of books that seems to
> deny the existance of female sexuality as a natural thing. Which is
> a throw-back view, IMO.
Magpie:
That little detail is bizarre, isn't it? I think when it comes to this
the books are like a nexus of all sorts of unexamined stereotypes that
lead...somewhere...but are probably a mix of different things.
I mean, when do we ever see boys chasing girls? I can think of only a
few examples--McLaggen tries to snog Hermione at the party, Viktor
morphs into a bit of a womanizer who only wants hot babes. Fred
actually asks Angelina to the ball iirc. In James/Lily James seems to
be the one who's actually going after her (though she already likes
him and seems to be waiting for him to get it right). McLaggen is the
only one I can think of who's actually characterized as a guy trying
to get into a girl's pants.
Usually we've got girls chasing after boys like Beatles groupies--we
see boys liking girls back, but if you're looking for real OTT stuff,
I think it's mostly girls doing the chasing. Off the top of my head:
Crowds follow Harry, trying to get him under the mistletoe.
Crowds ask Harry to go to the GoF ball with them.
The love potions are marketed to girls (because what guy would want a
girl to think she was in love with him for any amount of time?!).
Harry is given a dose of a potion by unattractive and aggressive
Romilda, who also wants to know what he's got under his clothes.
Myrtle is a peeping Tom and a bit of a lech.
Tom Riddle grosses himself up allowing himself to be pawed by also
unattractive Hepzibah.
Ugly Merope traps Tom Riddle Sr. as a love slave for months.
Cho initiates everything in her relationship with Harry, even though
he's liked her before, and not vice-versa.
Hermione and Ginny plot and discuss for years to get their men.
Lavender goes after Ron and continues chasing him after he's lost
interest.
Iirc Fleur's eyeing Bill is the start of their relationship
(apparently she starts plotting them).
Tonks will get Remus to marry her even if she has to demand it at a
hospital bed, and their whole relationship is mostly Remus running and
Tonks chasing.
Girls are trying to get Sirius' attention in the Pensieve.
Girls chase Viktor.
Bellatrix pants after an uninterested Voldemort.
Parvati and Lavender crush on Firenze (who's lower half is a horse...).
Why, since this is the way the world works, did anybody think the
girls were the ones who needed to be protected with the staircase?
It's like it's all part of the "game" girls play ("you know what I'm
talking about!") where the smart ones manipulate things so they seem
like they're being pursued when it's all part of the plan. It's girls
who are sexually aggressive, addled by hormones, made stupid by lust.
Guys in canon, by contrast, are quite passive, befuddled and
uninterested until some girl manipulates them into feeling differently
and then they're not responsible for their actions.
There are times where guys obviously find a girl attractive, but not
on this level. In fact, the closest the boys ever get to this level is
when they're dealing with Veelas, who seem to embody some sort of
lesson about this sort of thing (the way they turn into harpies once
you're attracted, how the boys shouldn't judge on looks alone, how
it's fake magic) that is never really needed by the boys in life. Or
else when they're under the influence of love potions where again it's
really the girl sending out some magical force that takes away the
boy's will.
-m
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