GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look

[zanooda2]

No: HPFGUIDX 182110

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:

> If Sirius knows about DE, why doesn't he know what Dark mark is?


zanooda:

I've always found it implausible that Sirius didn't know about the 
Dark mark. How is it possible that the members of the OotP wouldn't 
know how to recognize a DE? It is a useful thing to know about the 
enemy.  


> Alla:

> as far as I am concerned Snape was just satisfying his 
> sadistic streak here and it is possible that Barty could have 
> been saved by Dumbledore, if only Snape let Harry see 
> Dumbledore a moment earlier. 


zanooda:

You are right about the sadistic streak :-), but I don't think 
Mr.Crouch could have been saved. Keep in mind that Crouch Jr. was 
already in the forest when Harry and Viktor met Crouch Sr. 
Crouch/Moody explains it all later in the "Veritaserum" chapter. He 
saw his father on the map and went to the forest to intercept him, 
but at that moment Harry and Viktor appeared and started talking to 
Crouch Sr., so Fake!Moody had to wait until Harry left. He stunned 
Krum and killed Mr.Crouch immediately after that, so there is no way 
DD could have saved him, even if he came earlier.