GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look/ Snape and Harry and Gargoyles
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 19 05:34:53 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 182157
Alla:
> As soon as you refer me to the canon where Snape is appointed the
> guardian of Dumbledore FROM HARRY of all people, I will agree that
> this is Snape's business.
zgirnius:
He is not the guardian FROM HARRY, he is *a* guardian OF HARRY.
Dumbledore has delegated the protection of Harry to Snape in the
past, and I would like to see the canon that he changed his mind. If
Dumbledore is busy, why should Snape not deal with a matter which is
well within his competence to handle? Just as Minerva can tell Harry
to wait another day, rather than sending an Owl back to the Ministry,
Flooing there herself, etc, when she discovers that the matter is not
serious (in her opinion). <SNIP>
Alla:
So how is Harry wanting Dumbledore's help transpires into Snape
deemed necessary to step into his alleged role of guardian of Harry?
Didn't you argue that as good subordinates Snape and Minerva are
protective of boss' time?
Looks to me as Snape being self alleged guardian from Harry here, if
he would not let him to see his boss? And again, who made him that
guardian?
Alla:
> Yeah, the only missing part is who told Snape to be such a judge?
zgirnius:
Albus, when he hired Snape to be a teacher and Head of House at
Hogwarts, and when he asked for Snape's help in protecting Harry
specifically.
Alla:
I still do not recall Dumbledore asking Snape's help in protecting
Harry from Dumbledore, LOL. Your scenario would make some sense to me
if Voldemort was in that office.
Alla:
> And of course there is another missing part IMO. So Snape deemed
> Harry's emergency worthy for Dumbledore to look at, how again he
> communicates to Dumbledore that he can come out?
zgirnius:
Snape knows the password, of course. If he does not, then he is
completely powerless in the situation, and I don't see what we are
arguing about.
Alla:
Well, of course he knows password. OH, Okay, I see, DUH Alla. If
Snape decides that Harry is worthy of Dumbledore's time, he does not
need to call Dumbledore from distance in your scenario, he would just
tell him the password. At least I understand this part now.
zgirnius:
She doesn't? And Snape does? Why, exactly?
I mean, we have canon of Dumbledore asking for Snape's assistance,
for Snape to protect Harry, and Snape agreeing. I don't see anywhere
Albus telling Snape before PS/SS that Harry is the key to the War
Effort - he does not need to tell Snape anything of the sort, because
Snape finds his own personal reasons for this action sufficiently
compelling.
Minerva does seem to realize Harry is important, long before he ever
comes to school. <SNIP>
Alla:
Snape knows prophecy, Minerva does not. Snape knows how intent
Voldemort on getting prophecy boy.
Zgirnius:
<SNIP>
And of course, I believe Snape was telling the truth. Albus is busy -
he has many demands on his time.
Alla:
Wait, wait, so there is that boy whom somebody put in that deadly
dangerous TWT and Snape should protect him, but he does not think
that at the smallest sign of trouble he should rush him to Dumbledore?
Well, we all know how helpful Snape was in protecting Harry in GoF,
he certainly did not save Harry from GoF, so I guess I can see that.
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