GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look

littleleahstill leahstill at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 19 21:23:47 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 182170

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
>> Alla:
> 
> I believe that while Harry was wrong about Snape's loyalties he 
was 
> always spot on about Snape hating him. But in any event I think 
that 
> by the fact of Snape contributing to destroying Harry's life as it 
> could have been, Harry by default earned the right to be as wrong 
> about Snape as he wishes to and still be forgiven. And Snape 
> attacking him in the beginning increased that belief of mine.

Leah:  What do you mean by Snape 'destroying Harry's life as it 
could have been'?  Is this a reference to something Snape does at 
Hogwarts, because I can't see Harry 'destroyed' by anything Snape 
does.  Or is it a reference to the prophecy, which Snape could not 
have even know referred to a baby, let alone Harry personally, and 
which Snape attempts to put right as soon as he does know.   Snape 
does not decide the prophecy refers to Harry, he does not change 
Secret Keepers, he does not betray the location of Godric's Hollow, 
he does not decide to leave Harry with the Dursleys and not check on 
him, he does not raise him to die, so there are a lot of people 
Harry has the right to be wrong about.  And of course, once 
Voldemort had latched onto Harry as prophecy boy, it was only down 
to Snape that Harry has any life at all. If Snape had not asked for 
Lily's life, she would not have been given the all-important choice 
to live and Harry would have been as dead as his parents.  



> 
> But I want to ask a question, what does picking vibes mean?
> 
> You think Snape does not legilimence Harry every time he looks at 
> him? Is any other way of telepathy or something similar exists in 
> Potterverse? I do not think it does, am I wrong? Something like 
> empathy you mean? Picking up emotions?

Yes, as Magpie has said, vibrations, picking up emotions, not 
emphathy, which is a feeling of something in common.  Real 
leglimency, as we see in the Occlumency lessons, gives very clear 
glimpses of memory, and Snape does not seem to get those in general, 
I think he picks up feelings without particularly trying, like the 
fact that Harry is lying about something, without going into real 
leglimency and seeing what that something is.

(snip)
And, as I have said, Harry does have Lord Voldemort in the front of 
his head, and Snape has the Dark Mark. If he is picking up signals 
from Harry, then he is presumably also picking up horcrux feelings 
from Voldysoul in Harry. Add that to the eyes of the woman he loved 
and feels he has betrayed and the face of his enemy, and there is a 
whole lot of nasty feelings hitting Snape. 



 
> So I speculate that Snape can only touch very surface of Harry's 
mind 
> without him knowing that he does something and that is how he may 
> know sometimes what Harry did but not why.
> 
I agree, just as Harry looks at Snape's actions and knows he is 
doing something, but not why.  (and Dumbledore does nothing 
whatsoever to help)

Leah 








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