GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look/ Snape and Harry redux

[sistermagpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 182213

> Alla:
> 
> I did admit that? I thought I stressed specifically that quite a 
few of 
> order members survived the first war at least. I "thank" Snape for 
Lily 
> and James NOT surviving that.
> 
> And again, who says that Lily and James would not have been just as 
> lucky as Hagrid? Is the fact that they defied Voldemort three times 
> matters only as much as them fighting Voldemort? Does it not matter 
> that they **succesfully** defied Voldemort to increase their 
survival 
> chances?
> 
> And  there are Molly and Arthur of course.

Magpie:
Lupin was dead by the end of the series, but in a battle where most 
people seemed to survive. I consider him one that pretty much made it 
through. He died as a random combatant in that last battle where 
everybody was fighting--and plenty, including children and people who 
had not really fought before--survived. So I feel like Lupin just 
died from being unlucky rather than because Voldemort was so powerful 
that being an Order member meant you'd likely wind up dead. We don't 
know how long Sirius would have survived after OotP, but his death, 
too, is far more about dumb luck than Voldemort's great evil. It was 
Voldemort's plan that got him there, yes, but he got killed by a 
lucky shot from one of his minions when he himself got maybe too 
cocky. (A minion who herself was later taken out by a woman she 
presumably far outmatched in skill level.) He wasn't specifically 
targetted by Voldemort. But at least in Sirius' case one could say he 
died because he was in the Order, on a mission for the Order, just as 
Moody was. Lupin died in a free-for-all he had a good chance of 
surviving. I mean, at least as good a chance as Lavender Brown or any 
of the Weasleys.

-m