Dumbledore and Snape that night WAS: Re: GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 182292

> Pippin:
> I agree that he's testing Snape. But it's not a given that the 
Potters
> would be "taken care of". 
> 
> Out of the fourteen or so people named in Moody's photograph, only 
two
> were alive and well at the end of the war. If the Order's mission 
was
> to take care of its members, it was a dismal, abject, pointless 
failure. 
> 
> But I don't think we're supposed to see it that way. Sirius 
certainly
> didn't. We  know how he felt about being kept out of the fight
> for his own safety. 
> 
>  Snape was not asking Dumbledore to protect a civilian, he was 
asking
> him to take an Order witch out of the action, and Dumbledore was 
quite
> right to consider what the Order could get in return.
<SNIP>


Alla:

Dumbledore is not asking Snape what the Order will get in return 
though. He is asking what Snape will give **him** in return. I am 
reminded of the famous Russian poetry rhyme during the communist 
regime. The rough translation will be something like that "When we 
are saying Communist Party, we mean Lenin, when we are saying Lenin 
we mean Communist Party".

So, you think Dumbledore and Order are interchangeable definitions? I 
mean do not get me wrong, it certainly looks like it to me, but erm
 
it does not look good to me if it is so.

So, sure I certainly hope that Potioncat is right and Dumbledore IS 
testing Snape, although even for me, whom you can hardly suspect in 
being sympathetic towards Snape, that was well
 cruel.

I am not BOTHERED by it, don't get me wrong, I think Snape deserved 
every word he got from Dumbledore that night, but um, I still think 
it was cruel.

Now, if it was some sort of shock therapy for Snape, something that 
Dumbledore did not really mean, something he did to shake Snape out 
of the hole he got himself into, to show him the horrors that his 
actions caused, to show him that now even the leader of light may not 
be very willing to protect the person who is in danger because of 
him, Okay I can see that.

And the therapy seemed to work for Snape, but was it a shock therapy?

I also wonder what does Sirius have to do with anything? I do not 
remember Lily and James objecting to going into hiding.

Now if they were told to go over their objections for their own 
safety, I can see some sort of comparison with Sirius. I mean, he 
also just wanted to do something, not show up in front of Ministry 
and say hey, here I am, no?

JMO,

Alla