One True Hero and Hero By Committee - LONG

[Zara]

No: HPFGUIDX 182362

> bboyminn:
> 1.) All the Horcruxes including Harry have been destroyed. Harry
> did that. He created that circumstance. Likely at some point
> in some undetermined future, some one else could have done that,
> but with each passing day in which Voldemort gains greater power,
> the opportunity and the likelihood to do so diminishes.

zgirnius:
You snipped my (extensive) argument regarding this point, if you want 
more detail. The bottom line is, Harry did not destroy all of the 
Horcruxes including Harry. Harry destroyed the Diary and the Harry 
Horcrux. And the latter, he would not have known to do without the 
contributions of others (though he might have inadvertently 
accomplished it somehow by getting himself killed. Such an outcome 
would of course prevent Harry from ever defeating Voldemort, since 
Harry would be, sadly, dead in that case). 

The mastermind of the Horcrux plan, who determined its necessity, 
defined its extent, and made significant progress towards its 
completion on his own, was Albus Dumbledore. He then trained Harry as 
his successor, when he realized he would fail. Just as Harry trained 
Ron, Hermione, and Neville to be *his* successors in turn. Other 
individuals named upthread made contributions as well.

In no way can it be said Harry did this.

> bboyminn:
> 2.) Harry is the presumed Master of the Elder Wand which 
> Voldemort is wielding. Harry created that circumstance, though
> he did so inadvertently. Who else could have created a similar
> circumstance? Better yet, who did? No one. 

zgirnius:
If Albus had died of the Ring Curse, it is my opinion that the Wand 
would have passed to Voldemort. Albus deserves credit, in my book, 
for ensuring this did not happen through his handling of the Draco 
mission with Snape. While his plan did not work out precisely, in its 
absence, Harry would not have been master of the wand.

> bboyminn:
> 4.) Harry does not act with vengence, or a will or desire to 
> kill. Though he certainly has more reason than most. He defends
> himself, but does not really attack Voldemort.
> 
> Who else would have thought to or been able to do this? 

zgirnius:
I am not convinced this was a necessary condition. If Harry was 
vengeful and desried Voldemoert's death, and thus he and Voldemort 
had *both* yelled "Avada Kedavra!" at the top of their lungs, I would 
think Voldemort would be just as dead.