Did Harry Notice?

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon May 12 14:25:31 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 182867

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "k12listmomma"
<k12listmomma at ...> wrote:
>
> >
> > So maybe JKR wanted to make a point; James and Lily were *too*
> > trusting of friendship, loyalty, courage, and those things that
they themselves  seemed to be born with. Was this a logical way to
make that point? IMO, no.
> >
> > I can't see James, who moments before was entertaining Harry with
his wand and had just dropped it on the sofa he was sitting on,
respond to the door bursting open without snatching up his wand.

Pippin:
We're watching and hearing the action from Voldemort's point of view.
Voldemort knows that the door has burst open. But James doesn't know
that -- he's in another room, he can't see what happened, all he's 
heard is a loud noise from the front hall. It's Halloween, he has
friends who like to play pranks, and he thinks he's *safe*. He's not
thinking like a bodyguard, the spell is supposed to be taking
care of that.

It's not until he sprints into the hall that he knows what's
happening, and then it's too late to go back for his wand -- he'd be
leading Voldemort straight to Harry and Lily.



k12listmomma:
> > After the things Voldemort had told Harry about his dad in PS/SS
and in the graveyard of GoF, we and Harry were under the impression
that James had put up a *good* fight, or at least had represented
himself well. I don't see how standing in front of Voldemort,
wandless, waiting to be AKed can be construed, as Voldemort himself
said in PS: "Yes, boy, your parents were brave... I killed your father
first,and he put up a courageous fight..." <SS p.294, US>

Pippin:

Remember Neville's big moment in PS/SS?  He tried to stop the Trio
from going after the Stone. We're to understand that he represented
himself very well and put up a courageous fight, although he did
nothing more than *put up his fists* and shout "Try and hit me! I'm
ready." 

 I think JKR knew exactly what she was doing in DH, foreshadowed it
with the scene from PS/SS, and always intended to show James facing
Voldemort without his wand. Isn't that braver than facing him with one?

Of course Harry did not see any incongruity any more than he saw an
incongruity in Dumbledore awarding Neville ten points and the margin
of victory. Harry  understood that bravery and being an effective
fighter are two entirely different things. 
 

Pippin






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