Prank WAS: Re: CHAPDISC: DH33, The Prince's Tale

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 16 15:46:40 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184904

Carol:
<HUGE SNIP>
Nope. He knows that they can get safely in to see what he's pretty
sure is a werewolf, and if they can do it, so can he, or so he would
think.
<SNIP>

Alla:
So, Snape does not know why they are safe, but according to your 
argument  he will assume that whatever keeps them safe will keep him 
safe as well? Why would he ever do it if he is so good at DADA and he 
has no idea what exactly makes him safe? What a stupid assumption to 
make in my view.

Carol:
<HUGE SNIP>
Carol, who doubts that Severus was suicidal at the timeof the
so-called Prank, as he would have to be to enter the Shack thinking
he'd encounter an unrestrained werewolf

Alla:

Um, if he enters Shack not knowing what exactly keeps Marauders safe, 
then yes, it seems to me that he is looking for certain death OR he 
is so arrogant that despite not knowing why Marauders hang out with 
werewolf and lived, he thinks he has his own methods for keeping 
werewolf in check.

Carol:
<SNIP>
Carol, who thinks that sirius and James deserved to be expelled for
running with a werewolf and that Sirius deserved it yet again for
nearly getting a classmate killed.

Alla:

Yeah, see if you would have said that Sirius deserved to be expelled 
for giving information to the classmate, I certainly agree that he 
deserved at least some punishment. But **nearly getting classmate 
killed**? That is my principal objection basically.

I think Magpie again (thank you Magpie, maybe I should just stop 
talking and let you talk ) said  pretty much how I feel.

Magpie:
<SNIP>
Sirius
knows that Snape is planning on doing something dangerous and as a
fellow human being that gives him some responsibility to at the very
least not help him to do this dangerous thing. However that's
not "tricking" Snape if Snape is going into the willow expecting to
find Lupin the werewolf inside. As I said I do hold Sirius
responsible for bad actions here. Just not Snape's bad actions.
They're both two teenagers doing reckless things. This is very
different than the way Snape made it seem to me when he first told
the story. Now it's more like Snape blaming Sirius for helping him do
something stupid without acknowledging that the desire to do this
stupid thing was also Snape's. <SNIP>

Alla:

Bottom line to me that no matter how harmful for Snape's health this 
information could have been, Sirius could have never been hundred 
percent sure that Snape will have used it. Never, ever. Sirius could 
have hoped, wanted him to use it, but again, to me it is not 
**tricking Snape** or **setting Snape up**. That is really my main 
objection, it is not like I am saying that Sirius had a benevolent 
intent, or did a good thing here. So, of course Sirius gave him the 
tools, which he should not have. But Sirius did not make Snape to use 
them, Snape and only Snape is responsible for that.

JMO,

Alla








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