Snape / Theo / Peter Peter Death Eater / Snape's Memories

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 184918

More about chapter 33 changing my view of Snape in a disappointing
way: I'd thought he already had that mouth on him by age 11, sarcasm
that his fellow Slytherins were pleased to use as a weapon on their
enemies, but were a bit afraid of being on the receiving end of it
themselves. SWM had already stated that he walked like a spider in
fifth year, and while it would be ridiculous for a teen-ager to swoop
dramatically, I thought he had walked with more appearance of confidence.

Potioncat wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/184870>:

<< Is it just the 2 of us who still call Theodore Nott "Theo"? >>

Me, too.

<< I wonder if blowing up 12 Muggles was acccidental? We've always
wondered how poor Peter has managed to work such amazing magic. >>

I've always thought that the Ministry didn't have to work very hard to
offer an exploding gas main as the Muggle explanation of these deaths,
beside to me the way Peter did it was to curse the gas main to
explode. I figure Peter knows about gas mains because he was
Muggle-born. All the proof I can offer is that JKR once replied that
Muggle-borns weren't allowed to be Death Eaters except in very special
circumstances, and the most special circumstance I can think of is
being the Potters' Secret Keeper; also it would explain why no one
ever thought Peter could be the traitor.

Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/184853>:

<< Even Sirius doesn't know as of his own arrest just after
Godric's Hollow (and doesn't find out in prison, either) that Snape
became a DE. >>

Why didn't he find out in prison? Snape was an open Death Eater, known
to other Death Eaters like Karkaroff, while Peter was a secret Death
Eater, not known to the other Death Eaters, and Sirius heard Death
Eaters screaming in their nightmares about Peter being a Light Side
agent who led LV into a trap. So why didn't he hear about Snape?

I can never get the logic of this part, anyway. If Peter was secret,
how did the imprisoned DEs know to scream against him? I believe it
was Pippin who suggested that the only one he heard screaming about
Peter was Bellatrix, at least until the others picked it up from her,
and Bellatrix can be more knowledgeable than the average Death Eater. 

I suppose someone has already suggested that LV may have bragged to
his DEs that he had a secret agent named Wormtail who told him where
the Potters were, so the DEs could scream against 'Wormtail' rather
than Peter. Sirius would know who 'Wormtail' is. 

Was Sirius right that Peter was hiding as a rat from fear of DE
revenge on the agent who led LV to his death? If Bellatrix was the
only one who knew about him, I'd think he wasn't in danger while she
was in Azkaban. He apparently didn't know that Bellatrix and young
Barty were the only DEs inclined to seek revenge for LV. If he knew
that the DEs, including those who walked free, knew that the agent was
'Wormtail', would he be paranoid to fear that they'll figure out that
'Wormtail' is him?

Carol wrote in in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/184838>:

<< otherwise he would not have put three memories--SWM and two others
that we don't get to see--in the Pensieve so Harry won't see them >>

This reminded me that since DH, we have more evidence with which to
speculate on what the other two memories were.

Magpie wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/184880>:

<< [Snape felt] a moment of real fear when he saw he was facing a
werewolf, followed by James of all people dragging him to safety. I
think that moment of pants-wetting fear, perhaps followed by clinging
to James...that might be a truly humiliating memory for him. (Maybe
that was one of the ones in the Pensieve along with the one we saw in
SWM.) >>

You think? SWM suggests that what Snape wanted to hide from Harry is
memories of being humiliated by James (surely it happened more than
three times). But wouldn't it be logical for him to hide memories that
he didn't want LV to see via Harryvision, memories of him being loyal
to DD? The one where he met DD to beg for protection for Lily and the
one where he went to DD after Lily's death and promised to protect
Harry would seem to qualify, as would any memory of him telling DD
about an LV plan or naming names.

Is it canon that James dragged Severus out of the tunnel? I have a
vision of James sending Severus out while James remained to slow down
Moony (in Prongs form), but he wanted Severous *gone* before he
transformed and Severus refused to be such a coward as to run away
leaving someone behind, and James desperately saying that he knew a
secret defense against this werewolf that Severus didn't know seemed
to Severus to be a lie. So I guess James levitated Severus, maybe put
Full Body Bind on him, and Mobilicorpus'ed him from the tunnel, which
also would be pretty humiliating.