Snape / Theo / Peter Peter Death Eater / Snape's Memories

Carol justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 17 21:05:06 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184930

Carol earlier:
> 
> << Even Sirius doesn't know as of his own arrest just after Godric's
Hollow (and doesn't find out in prison, either) that Snape became a DE. >>

Catlady responded: 
> Why didn't he find out in prison? Snape was an open Death Eater,
known to other Death Eaters like Karkaroff, while Peter was a secret
Death Eater, not known to the other Death Eaters, and Sirius heard
Death Eaters screaming in their nightmares about Peter being a Light
Side agent who led LV into a trap. So why didn't he hear about Snape?
> 
> I can never get the logic of this part, anyway. If Peter was secret,
how did the imprisoned DEs know to scream against him? I believe it
was Pippin who suggested that the only one he heard screaming about
Peter was Bellatrix, at least until the others picked it up from her,
and Bellatrix can be more knowledgeable than the average Death Eater. 
<snip>

Carol responds:
That was me though Pippin may also have suggested it. I think that
Bellatrix would be raging, but Barty Jr. would be whimpering in fear
of the Dementors, concerned only with his own skin. Neither of the
Lestrange brothers spoke during their sentencing. They seem already
resigned to their fate, or maybe too stolid and stupid to speak up for
themselves. My own view is that no one but Bellatrix and maybe her
three cronies knew about Wormtail being the spy and that any DE
brought in to Azkaban stopped screaming and protesting very quickly
because of the Dementors. Some probably went mad or died if the tales
Sirius and Hagrid tell are true.

At any rate, whatever the explanation, Sirius didn't find out about
Snape. No one involved was concerned about him, apparently. They
weren't screaming about Lucius Malfoy pleading the Imperius Curse, either.

Catlady:
> Is it canon that James dragged Severus out of the tunnel? I have a
vision of James sending Severus out while James remained to slow down
Moony (in Prongs form), but he wanted Severous *gone* before he
transformed and Severus refused to be such a coward as to run away
leaving someone behind, and James desperately saying that he knew a
secret defense against this werewolf that Severus didn't know seemed
to Severus to be a lie. So I guess James levitated Severus, maybe put
Full Body Bind on him, and Mobilicorpus'ed him from the tunnel, which
also would be pretty humiliating.

Carol responds:
No canon whatever. My own view is that he Stunned Severus and kind of
slung him over his back as he transformed so that he carried Severus
out in Animagus form without Severus knowing what happened. There's no
way that James could have survived himself without transforming, and
no way he would have done so in front of Severus. Whatever he did, I'm
sure it wasn't grabbing him by the arm and yelling "Run!" but, yeah,
whatever he did was humiliating, if only because being rescued by
James was humiliating in itself. No wonder he was furious and
humiliated by *Lily's* attempt to rescue him a few days later!

Carol, who thinks that JKR deliberately left the details vague so that
we can all imagine them for ourselves





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