Prank WAS: Re: CHAPDISC: DH33, The Prince's Tale

montavilla47 montavilla47 at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 17 02:15:44 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184921

> > Carol responds:
> > 
> > However much severus may have wanted to verify his theory and find 
> out
> > what the Marauders were up to and regardless of his reason or 
> resasons
> > for wanting to do so, he could not have gotten past the Whomping
> > Willow had Sirius not told him how to do so--Here's how to get 
> *into*
> > danger, in essence. 
> 
> Magpie:
> Yes, and that is what I think Sirius should be held responsible for. 
> He intentionally gave Snape help to do something dangerous to Snape. 
> I just wouldn't describe that as tricking him or tempting him. It's 
> like if somebody wanted to commit murder and I got them a gun. I 
> would be very much responsible in the death of the person they killed 
> by giving the person a gun to kill the person. I would not be guilty 
> of tricking the person into murder or even enticing them to murder 
> the other person. Presumably that would be something they came up 
> with all on their own.

Montavilla47:
I really don't disagree with you.  However, it's really more like giving
a person a gun if they want to play Russian roulette.  And it's even more 
like showing them the gun, holding it up to your temple, pulling the 
trigger so that they see that the gun isn't going to go off, and then 
neglecting to tell them that the bullet is in the next chamber. :)

Or neglecting to tell them that you have a bullet-proof plate in
your head. :)

> Magpie:
> Prior to DH it seemed like Snape didn't know there was a werewolf and 
> that's why he claimed it was attempted murder. Now it seems like he 
> did know but he went in without a clear knowledge of how he was going 
> to be safe from said werewolf. The idea that he would be safe was 
> just vague speculation on his part.

Montavilla47:
Just keeping in this part in because I agree completely.  That was, I 
thought, the reason behind Dumbledore saying, "My memory is as good
as it ever was."  I thought Dumbledore was telling Snape, "This idea of
yours that Sirius was trying to murder you is a bit overdone.  You were
both sixteen and you were both idiots.  That's what I remember."

I suppose one could read it as Dumbledore saying, "Yes.  And I remember
that you were the jerk who told Voldemort about the Prophecy.  Go
back to your dungeon, oh Disgusting One."

:)









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